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So glad for Moris! Last-minute invite and he places 5th!! That'll show them...
I'm adding Nathan to the gofundme costumes list. Or is he pulling a Patrick "Costume? I don't need no stinkin' costume" Chan?
2. There is no need to continue the discussion about whether Chen's costumes in Salt Lake City -- red shirt and black pants for the short, all black for the free -- enhanced his programs.
A member of Team Chen told me they are only temporary, chosen because there was not enough time to get the costumes he will wear later in the season. He likely will stick with these through at least his next two competitions, October's Japan Open and the Rostelecom Cup.
Chen let his choreographers -- Shae-Lynn Bourne (who did his short program to the Benjamin Clementine version of "Nemesis") and Lori Nichol (who used the score from the film Mao's Last Dancer, with its powerful passage from Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring, to craft his free skate) -- pick the music.
What I would REALLY like to know is how Lori Nichol even came up with this suggestion. It's such an unexpected choice and a pleasant surprise.
What are you referring to here? Are you talking about the loud cheer that someone let out right after Nathan doubled the 2nd 4T attempt? I thought it could've really psyched him up.
Tut tut...you're not showing the complete picture are you, comparing apples and oranges, or 2010 PCS scores with 2017 PCS scores.
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpcan2010/gpcan10_Men_SP_Scores.pdf
Let's compare apples to apples, hack, let's compare apples in the same basket sold on the same day.
Wow....with 3 falls, Patrick still scored HIGHER PCS 39.47 for SP, in 4th place, while Oda received PCS 38 for zero falls and 1st place in SP.
Come on now, let's be honest. Patrick fell 3 times and received higher PCS than Oda (0 fall), Reynolds (1 fall) and Rippon (0 fall).
Plus, it is SP, much, much shorter than FP, thus the falls more closely packed together, the impact greater.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Again, I think Patrick deserves his PCS, I don't think of these falls as affecting his overall skating quality, he is the master of the ice, and I apply the SAME standards to Kolyada.
Let's be honest here, Kolyada just isn't very liked at all. He has horrible costumes, badly choreographed programs, but that has nothing to do with his own talent. His SS, jump technique, his speed, flow, ice coverage, amazing step sequences and footwork are all impressive, more than Nathan's or Shoma's. I won't put him over Patrick's though, and his PCS isn't anywhere near Patrick's either.
I don't apply double standards, that's all.
Wait, you are saying you can identify that one single cheer amongst all the clapping and cheers when he did land the jumps, from the broadcast? C'mon now.If you listen closely you will here the same cheer on all of his jumps, it is more likely a Nathan fan than it is a Yuzuru fan who cheered.
There's a big difference though in a skater falling 3 times and scoring below their usual PCS, and a skater falling 3 times and scoring a personal best PCS. THAT is a double standard.
FYI, I do like Kolyada and he's actually my fave Russian male skater at the moment. But I don't try to justify a skater getting a personal best with 3 falls, regardless of whether I love em or hate em.
And also FYI I've pointed out instances when Chan has also been overscored, like 2013 Worlds or 2017 World Team Trophy. But Chan has never gotten a personal best PCS for a sloppy performance the way Kolyada was given.
Surely you can agree that if somebody performs significantly worse than they have in the past (3 falls!) they shouldn't be awarded a personal best.
kolyada never skates clean. why you so amazed that he get a PB PCS with falls? he falls and pops in a fs every time, usually more than once.
and this time he skated a program with his personal highest BV, and the highest BV in the field
Radical changes are being proposed to the judging, but perhaps a simpler and more effective fix would be to change the suggestion that 10's not be given to a program with errors to a hard-line 'must!' Right now, judges can still decide, according to the rules, to disregard an error in this way.
The same with GOE. It's still left up to the judges discretion according to the rules. Changing just one word will close the loophole. no +3 for a wonky jump (like Yuzu's Lz) no -2 for a fall. This ensures that the judges are forced to give penalties evenly.
Wait, you are saying you can identify that one single cheer amongst all the clapping and cheers when he did land the jumps, from the broadcast? C'mon now.
ETA: I turned up the volume and listened very carefully again, and I think you could be right.
not to sound pretentious but i just wanted to say that i feel disgusted with how this thread is turning out - i wanted to read everyone's reactions on yuzu's newly minted 4lz, nathan's herculean skate, misha's passionate performance, etc etc and instead it's turned into a place where people are defending the right to mock a fan of a skater like ***? how bout this-it's not okay to assume anything of anyone based off of 2-3 seconds that was shown on television. how about this-it's not important about how one fan feels about one other skater
and why is there such a burning need by some people to over generalize a group of people based off of one or two people's reactions? ??
honestly if this is how it's going to be for this season i might as well kiss GS goodbye because this is frankly toxic, IMO i dont like feeling bad for liking yuzuru, i dont like seeing mockery of fans who have paid money and taken time out of their days to support this amazing sport and amazing athletes
rant over lmao