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Seeing Joanne grinning the back I knew what kind of PCS score we were gonna get.
Your son needs some confidence and to let loose. He has better basics than we saw here.
2016-2017 State of Canadian Figure Skating
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Seeing Joanne grinning the back I knew what kind of PCS score we were gonna get.
Your son needs some confidence and to let loose. He has better basics than we saw here.
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i am going to let our dearest mango give details but our 3 boys did so amazingly well tonight this morning... some time... in the SP of the world juniors...
3 boys...
3 triple axels
3 3lz-3t combos
3 loops (mandatory jumps)
correct me if am wrong but it looked like season's best for all of them... awesome performances!!! go canada!!!
3 boys...
3 triple axels
3 3lz-3t combos
3 loops (mandatory jumps)
correct me if am wrong but it looked like season's best for all of them... awesome performances!!! go canada!!!
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Conrad, Nic, and Roman have all qualified for the FS! And they all went clean with personal or seasons bests. :thumbsup:
Videos
Nicolas - 77.20, TES 41.62, PCS 35.58
https://youtu.be/4L7gvTRTxSw
https://youtu.be/fdZa0R0eaa8
https://youtu.be/Q08MDfUpliA
Roman - 76.27, TES 41.72, PCS 34.55
https://youtu.be/-G_sLYlypdY
https://youtu.be/u0umGexmF_Y
https://youtu.be/GnE3kWG1lts
https://youtu.be/zhTHM58mFSg
Videos
Nicolas - 77.20, TES 41.62, PCS 35.58
https://youtu.be/4L7gvTRTxSw
https://youtu.be/fdZa0R0eaa8
https://youtu.be/Q08MDfUpliA
Roman - 76.27, TES 41.72, PCS 34.55
https://youtu.be/-G_sLYlypdY
https://youtu.be/u0umGexmF_Y
https://youtu.be/GnE3kWG1lts
https://youtu.be/zhTHM58mFSg
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Evelyn and Trennt got a SB score and cracked 50 points again. Crashy twist and a foot down by Evelyn on the SBS 2A (and maybe a death spiral issue??) but otherwise it was ok.
https://youtu.be/ETwkT7i5Feo
https://youtu.be/Hu5Ld8nd2jo
https://youtu.be/ETwkT7i5Feo
https://youtu.be/Hu5Ld8nd2jo
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Lori-Ann and Thierry had some issues today but still got a SB with 50.78.
https://youtu.be/6NngNyt70zA
https://youtu.be/PxO6t1gEh0A
So W/M can't finish lower than 7th in the SP and M/F can't finish lower than 8th.
ETA they finished 6th and 7th respectively due to a mistake by Amina Atakhanova / Ilia Spridonov. Not sure what to expect as a final result, but maybe 7th and 8th. Though 6th and 7th would be much more desirable for the emerging pairs in Canada.
https://youtu.be/6NngNyt70zA
https://youtu.be/PxO6t1gEh0A
So W/M can't finish lower than 7th in the SP and M/F can't finish lower than 8th.
ETA they finished 6th and 7th respectively due to a mistake by Amina Atakhanova / Ilia Spridonov. Not sure what to expect as a final result, but maybe 7th and 8th. Though 6th and 7th would be much more desirable for the emerging pairs in Canada.
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what> did you say Nic is at YRSA? you meant NAM right ?
Pretty sure Nic still lives in Montreal. But Bennett is also at YRSA, at least most of the time! Brian Orser is gone a lot due to coaching so many students. I think Roman was mainly working with Lee Barkell anyways. He maybe just wanted a coach that would be around more instead of having to work with so many other coaches. Given there are a lot of other boys his age/general level at YRSA it might not be a bad move, though it does seem kinda abrupt.
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Thanks Mango for this vids and for your defense of this team in another thread. That landing by Evelyn on the 3throw was 'Osmond-esque' in it's landing, and positive GOE also.
Not bad for a time that came together in August, and she as a first time pairs competitor.
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Personally I think both Nic and Roman should have been higher in PCS - especially Nic! But that would have put him skating in the top group and ahead of a couple of the contenders! I mean Nic's PCS is only 2 Pts higher then Torgashev's messy skate! That is just not right!
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I don't have time right now to fully express my joy that the Canadian guys all had great SPs, but I still wanted to share a gorgeous photo of Roman, Conrad and Nic with Vincent Zhou during my lunch break 
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Wonderful picture of the North Americans. I saw a photo of Cha, Samarin and Aliev. The Russians boys could be brothers. I was shocked at how much they look alike.
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Both Ashlynne Stairs / Lee Royer and Marjorie Lajoie / Zachary Lagha qualified for the FD with SB scores in the short dance. L/L hit 60 marks for the first time.
Ashlynne Stairs / Lee Royer - 52.26, TES 28.40, PCS 23.86
https://youtu.be/lNoC2ZGVeXY
https://youtu.be/_kolUt4P3h8
Marjorie Lajoie / Zachary Lagha - 60.79, TES 32.34, PCS 28.45
https://youtu.be/DE60NycxzQs
https://youtu.be/-b3uCd748U8
https://youtu.be/6a2LNWWD6dA
Ashlynne Stairs / Lee Royer - 52.26, TES 28.40, PCS 23.86
https://youtu.be/lNoC2ZGVeXY
https://youtu.be/_kolUt4P3h8
Marjorie Lajoie / Zachary Lagha - 60.79, TES 32.34, PCS 28.45
https://youtu.be/DE60NycxzQs
https://youtu.be/-b3uCd748U8
https://youtu.be/6a2LNWWD6dA
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So the guys had some disappointing skates. Looks like the injuries and subsequent lack of training caught up to Nicolas and Roman. Nic is aging out of juniors and is on the National team. So he'll be looking to get a GP spot next season. I think he'll have to prove himself in the summer though. I can see Skate Canada deciding between him and Keegan Messing. Roman's got one last season of junior left. He's got to get consistent, learn new quads, and make GPF. Conrad's got a few seasons left and a lot of PCS ground to make up. But he did the best of three tonight so he gets some kudos for that.
Fuji TV is taking down videos left and right on YouTube (none of my previous links work) so have some Dailymotion links that I found.
Nicolas SP & FS
Roman SP & FS
Conrad SP & FS
Good luck to Sarah Tamura skating 26th tomorrow in the ladies SP.
Fuji TV is taking down videos left and right on YouTube (none of my previous links work) so have some Dailymotion links that I found.
Nicolas SP & FS
Roman SP & FS
Conrad SP & FS
Good luck to Sarah Tamura skating 26th tomorrow in the ladies SP.
The sad thing is that we will be down to 6 spots which could mean that Sadovsky, Joseph Phan and Orzel get all the JGP spots leaving the lesser lights ( but deserving of a JGP spot ) with no chance of getting any spots unless those 3 bomb.
I hope guys that get junior men at the Autumn Classic also get an international junior event with a better field than what the Autumn Classic provides.
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So sad for Nic and Roman, especially Nic after such a great Nationals!
I think Conrad actually has the most long term potential of the 3, he seems to be a strong competitor and natural jumper.
Nic is so good but the pops are so frustrating! His skate tonight was Verner-esque. I really want him to make the Olympic team next year but it will be an uphill battle now. I think his SB score is only 196..
As for Roman I've kinda been thinking for awhile now he should switch to ice dance. His skating and spins are nice but I'm not sure if the big jumps are ever going to happen with him. So many downgrades in his FS. His technique hasn't really held up through puberty so idk if going back to Tracey will help. I just hope he's not too depressed, he always seems so emo.
I think Conrad actually has the most long term potential of the 3, he seems to be a strong competitor and natural jumper.
Nic is so good but the pops are so frustrating! His skate tonight was Verner-esque. I really want him to make the Olympic team next year but it will be an uphill battle now. I think his SB score is only 196..
As for Roman I've kinda been thinking for awhile now he should switch to ice dance. His skating and spins are nice but I'm not sure if the big jumps are ever going to happen with him. So many downgrades in his FS. His technique hasn't really held up through puberty so idk if going back to Tracey will help. I just hope he's not too depressed, he always seems so emo.
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I think the trip to Oberstdorf helped.
Way to go guys!
And now onto the guys. Quick turn around for the FS. I've been notified that 4everchan will not be watching his son Conrad. What a dad!
daddy saw conrad.... i liked how fierce he was... after popping his3a-3t into a 1a-3t conrad changed his 2a-1/2l-3s to a 3a-1/2-2s ... of course he would have liked to do 3a-1/2l-3s but still it showed how competitive he was. I also thought that Conrad skated better than in the SP and was hoping for slightly higher PCS... COME ON... 59... give me a break...
Roman and Nic.... disappointing skates... Roman has been injured, he even skipped Bavarian Open last month... Nic has had issues all season with his ankle but the kind of SP they had showed more promise.... I think they will learn from this though...
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i agree...
who else though needs to go to JGP ? Celestino? The others don't have the jump content (even Celestino doesn't have a 3A)... So at least these 3 would be covered... but i totally agree. Our boys need the experience in competition... it definitely showed tonight.
Feeling a bit blue about Nic and Roman's outcomes in the free skate. :sad21:
But I'm glad that they showed up and put out what they could, impact of injuries not withstanding. Accept that they were scored on what they did on the day, but take the learning from international experience.
Nic has definitely delivered better at home than internationally this season....wonder if there is something to take away from that. Roman may have got what he could from TCC, and may be better with Tracey Wainman's team which was his comfortable place for previous successes.
That said, I am thinking that Skate Canada really needs to think about getting a greater depth of junior and novice singles skaters, male and female, over to Europe for ISU B competitions. BC/YK section's delegation to the Barvarian Open looks like something other sections should consider. And if their top skaters go with a Skate Canada delegation, then perhaps look a bit further down the ranks....
The LTAD says that the competition intensity and experience needs to be gained before moving to seniors....resources are scarce, but the JPG cannot be relied on to provide this.
But I'm glad that they showed up and put out what they could, impact of injuries not withstanding. Accept that they were scored on what they did on the day, but take the learning from international experience.
Nic has definitely delivered better at home than internationally this season....wonder if there is something to take away from that. Roman may have got what he could from TCC, and may be better with Tracey Wainman's team which was his comfortable place for previous successes.
That said, I am thinking that Skate Canada really needs to think about getting a greater depth of junior and novice singles skaters, male and female, over to Europe for ISU B competitions. BC/YK section's delegation to the Barvarian Open looks like something other sections should consider. And if their top skaters go with a Skate Canada delegation, then perhaps look a bit further down the ranks....
The LTAD says that the competition intensity and experience needs to be gained before moving to seniors....resources are scarce, but the JPG cannot be relied on to provide this.
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