Plushenko Academy

Well, for comparison, 8-9k rubles is the minimum pension value for retired people.
My grandmother, who worked for more than 45 years, recieves 15k rubles / month.

moriel said:

Well, for comparison, 8-9k rubles is the minimum pension value for retired people.
My grandmother, who worked for more than 45 years, recieves 15k rubles / month.

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So, are saying that for most families, this academy would be out of their price range?

Yes, that is a lots of money and everybody are talking about it in Russia. Why ? Because that Academy is Plushenko's Academy. The Russian media wrote about it at all possible levels. And the yellow press wanted a sensation, and wanted to frustrate the Russians with the most expensive price.

I read this information:Averbukh's price is 85 000 rubles / 2 weeks. And he doesn' coach anybody, he has no own ice rink, coaches don't work for him. That is more than Plushenko Academy's price. No one cares about Averbukh's price.

Arthur Dmitriev https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1050771839.html

" Of course, in Moscow there are a lot of rich people, apparently, they also account for this commercial project. But to big sport all this has nothing to do.

Moreover, a large athlete does not always become a good coach, and if it does, it is not immediately after the end of a sports career, - Dmitriev said." google translate

This is true. He is also a coach.

As I said not once Evgeni Plushenko is not only an athlete he is a celebrity. And the Russian media write about him than they use to write about the showbusiness. They always want to make sensation.

I really don't understand why Plushy didn't went to coach to CSKA?? He is a CSKA member.

A part of his biography:

"I have also a dream – to open a boarding-school, a sport mini-complex, where there would be several departments – general physical training, figure skating, football, tennis, hockey.

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So that after the morning training the children should not take the metro and go to school. They will take a shower and go to the building nearby.
In this boarding school there should be a refectory, hotel, school, sports grounds, massage rooms, swimming pool. This would be a school for Olympic champions.
If I find support I will do this.

I remember my childhood very well. After trainings I went to a far away school. I took the lessons and then I went to trainings again. The transport takes much energy. In the boarding school there would be more time and with it - more strength to spend on important things. This is my idea.
The studying process should be different too. Going to sporting camps and competitions the sportsmen hopelessly fall behind their classmates, the school program does not wait for them. This should be an individual process, going back to school you should begin from the point you have stopped at. It is valid for figure skaters, hockey players, tennis players."

mrrice said:

So, are saying that for most families, this academy would be out of their price range?

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In Moscow many families can pay the price. But in Russia there are many poor people.

plushyfan said:

In Moscow many families can pay the price. But in Russia there are many poor people.

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I don't know whether they are really poor, but at least they can apply for some free land in the Far East as a Russian citizen, which means a lot to many people in other countries.

mrrice said:

So, are saying that for most families, this academy would be out of their price range?

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There are, of course, families who can pay the price. But for most, 2k / hr is kind of off limits - even in Moscow, where people on average earn richer. Just doing the math, thats at least 40k month to spend on just 1 child and 1 activity. On top of that, the family probably has another kid and other things they would want their kids to do, such as learn english, and so on.
But then, how many kids in USA or Europe, for example, would be able to afford to train with a star like Plushenko? Actually, i wonder if we know the hour rates of famous north american coaches, for example?

2000 rubles, according to Google, is just over 34 USD, 46 AUD. I pay only fractionally less than that for half an hour with my coach. And she is not a superstar (but she's my superstar. ).

I know Frank Carroll apparently charges 100 an hour - and that is over 5500 rubles!

karne said:

2000 rubles, according to Google, is just over 34 USD, 46 AUD. I pay only fractionally less than that for half an hour with my coach. And she is not a superstar (but she's my superstar. ).

I know Frank Carroll apparently charges 100 an hour - and that is over 5500 rubles!

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Well, there are price differences, life cost and income and so on.
Just back to my grandma as example: her pension is about 15k rubles (and yeah, thats 260 USD / month). This pension actually allows her to live modestly (well, not in Moscow) without any help from family (she can pay her bills, her food, her meds, and even save some money for eventual bigger expenses).
In 2015 i think, about 55% adults in Moscow were paid, at their jobs, 50k rubles / month or less (which is 850 USD), and its not like it got much better since then.

All the talks about the Price are really unprofessional. People only care about the price list for this school, but do you really know how many bills Plushenko has to pay to keep it going? He is only a co-owner there, so listening to other investers' opinions on its entrance threshold is necessary, and moreover, their charges are not that unreasonable considering his position/reputation in this field.

I think the only thing that can please those harsh "critics" is the News entitled "Plushenko Is Verging On Bankruptcy Because Of His New Academy."

Sweet Dream said:

All the talks about the Price are really unprofessional. People only care about the price list for this school, but do you really know how many bills Plushenko has to pay to keep it going? He is only a co-owner there, so listening to other investers' opinions on its entrance threshold is necessary, and moreover, their charges are not that unreasonable considering his position/reputation in this field.

I think the only thing that can please those harsh "critics" is the News entitled "Plushenko Is Verging On Bankruptcy Because Of His New Academy."

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I personally do not critic it =) Just trying to show the price dimension to non russian users.

Even if Plushy had no bills to pay, he still can charge whatever he wants for his services - its not like he is cheating and promising parents that their kids will win next olympics or whatever. So if parents want to pay, its their own money.

It is an average price for fs in Russia. Many who is critizing doesn't know anything about real fs. Even if you are in state club your mixed price per mounth could be higher than Plushenko's because you are paying for everything: choreography lessons, fintness club, trips to competions, ice (even in state school if you are not in a national team you have to pay), coach, costumes (in Moscow if to can't afford a new one there are always some free or many people suggest you to chose theirs), professional skates and all of that is in different places, so you pay for trips between buildings. So if you pay for great specialists your mix price canbe easily bigger than in Plushenko's academy. FS was always an expensive sport but if you win something you have also quite good money.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BT5thBAFOJG/?taken-by=angelsofplushenko

Good morning ️Our student Olesya (10 y.o.) has her second training of 3 flip jump ⛸


https://www.instagram.com/p/BT53qVYF7qk/?taken-by=angelsofplushenko

Our group of kids does the same as our group of adult sportsmen - train coordination and balance in the gym


https://www.instagram.com/p/BT6A7HolA9p/?taken-by=angelsofplushenko

Difficult element which our kids sportsmen @gnomgnomych and @eva_burunova make excellent! ⛸

LRK said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BT5thBAFOJG/?taken-by=angelsofplushenko

Good morning ️Our student Olesya (10 y.o.) has her second training of 3 flip jump ⛸


https://www.instagram.com/p/BT53qVYF7qk/?taken-by=angelsofplushenko

Our group of kids does the same as our group of adult sportsmen - train coordination and balance in the gym


https://www.instagram.com/p/BT6A7HolA9p/?taken-by=angelsofplushenko

Difficult element which our kids sportsmen @gnomgnomych and @eva_burunova make excellent! ⛸

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It looks like they're preparing for "catch foot spiral's and spins" BTW.....When I see the skaters working with that moving harness. I have to wonder if the harness holder has ever been injured by a skaters blade during a landing. They look very close together in that clip.

Once again, I would like to express my appreciation for these up close and personal glimpses into Plushy's Academy. IMO, they are even better than being there in person because we really get a great look at exactly what's happening.

Lana05 said:

It is an average price for fs in Russia. Many who is critizing doesn't know anything about real fs. Even if you are in state club your mixed price per mounth could be higher than Plushenko's because you are paying for everything: choreography lessons, fintness club, trips to competions, ice (even in state school if you are not in a national team you have to pay), coach, costumes (in Moscow if to can't afford a new one there are always some free or many people suggest you to chose theirs), professional skates and all of that is in different places, so you pay for trips between buildings. So if you pay for great specialists your mix price canbe easily bigger than in Plushenko's academy. FS was always an expensive sport but if you win something you have also quite good money.

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Oh, what a surprise! An other Russian poster was soooooooo outraged! She was shouting how arrogant Plushenko is because of his prices!

plushyfan said:

Oh, what a surprise! An other Russian poster was soooooooo outraged! She was shouting how arrogant Plushenko is because of his prices!

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I would say its average on top level.

Because, when they are in a state club, most skaters dont do much choreography lessons, or go to a fitness club, or travel to competitions, or even do costumes, and so on. This is a level small kids (such as many plushy's students) not do.

I think it's because people have herad real price for the first time. And you can look at the comments under his schools' updates where they are complaining about prices and don't understand why kids work so much off ice, which jump is it and call harness as a scoop-net and so on... Before they heard only how expensive could be training on ice (paying for main coach and arenda of ice), but really there are nearly always more than one coach on it and you work with many more specialists in different areas to achive something. Plus, our media always promotes him as a bad pearson

moriel said:

I would say its average on top level.

Because, when they are in a state club, most skaters dont do much choreography lessons, or go to a fitness club, or travel to competitions, or even do costumes, and so on. This is a level small kids (such as many plushy's students) not do.

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Yes,but it seems is not an extremely high, completely unusual price for privat lessons in Moscow. For me would be impossible to pay, of course

plushyfan said:

Yes,but it seems is not an extremely high, completely unusual price for privat lessons in Moscow. For me would be impossible to pay, of course

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I think its an ok price for lessons on that level, with Plushy as a coach. (hell, if i was around moscow, would totally take classes).
But its surely unnafordable for most families (even in Moscow), and not at all an average price for skating lessons in general.

Just googling, i found rinks with prices such as:
- 1600 rubles for 4 1hr classes (400/hr)
- 750 rubles / hr
- 850 rubles / hr
- 1200 rubles / hr
- 550 rubles / hr

I´m sure there are small rinks who arent 1st page google searches who charge less.
So yes, on average it is expensive. I dont say it is bad - it is just expensive.

Lana05 said:

I think it's because people have herad real price for the first time. And you can look at the comments under his schools' updates where they are complaining about prices and don't understand why kids work so much off ice, which jump is it and call harness as a scoop-net and so on... Before they heard only how expensive could be training on ice (paying for main coach and arenda of ice), but really there are nearly always more than one coach on it and you work with many more specialists in different areas to achive something. Plus, our media always promotes him as a bad pearson

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Oh, yes Plushy is not friendly with them, too. The media can make sensations with him. But he remained one of the most popular athletes for years. Russia is so huge!

plushyfan said:

Oh, yes Plushy is not friendly with them, too. The media can make sensations with him. But he remained one of the most popular athletes for years. Russia is so huge!

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This is the first time I'm hearing this. I thought Plushy was a legend who was loved by everyone in skating no matter which country they're from....Why is he not friendly with the press? Did something happen?