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2017-2018 Canadian Road to the Olympics

Mango

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I think I phrased the above poorly -- I didn't mean "older skaters should be prioritized" but that it could be unfair to deliberately bypass an older, successful team solely to support one with more junior eligibility even when the latter has yet to post results. Skate Canada ran into a difficult logjam just a few years ago when the top two junior medalists in dance -- Delmaestro/Lum and Collins/Firus, both of whom were about to age out -- were skipped for Junior Worlds because the top two junior couples overall -- Edwards/Pang and Bent/Mackeen -- had skated senior nationally. Those two teams then achieved the goal of temporarily regaining a third spot for Jr Worlds, but neither couple competed together again after that (Edwards' injury and the team's later split/retirement; Bent/Mackeen's split and his retirement). So Delmaestro/Lum and Collins/Firus were now the top young seniors, and were fortunate enough to pick up some Challenger assignments -- but both teams, despite a lot of raw talent, unfortunately had somewhat limited international experience and exposure, having paired up late in junior eligibility. You can understand SC's reasoning for sending to Jr Worlds the teams they did, and it paid off for the 2016 Jr Worlds team, but it's an example of the delicate nature of things for late bloomers; you miss out on the early years that build you up within the system and that can lead to early JGP assignments, and then you're thrust into senior without much of a reputation.

Anyway, since F/P were rewarded after all (and aren't entirely an example of the above phenomenon, anyway, given her youth), it's a moot point in this particular case!

I get you, I really do. But I'm not in favour of just giving assignments to teams because they're aging out. They had the time to develop, to get experience. Even if teams weren't together previously they could still have gotten experience (like Elliott Graham did with Hannah Whitley). If they weren't able to do it then it's not fair to ask teams who are younger and show promise to make the sacrifice. It's not their fault if someone else is a late bloomer. As for ice dance in particular - it tends to be the case that if you don't have some success at the junior level you can't expect much at the senior level. So teams that come together later on in their eligibility years need to put the pedal to the metal.

Edwards/Pang were to be the future of Canadian ice dance but stuff happened. But Lajoie/Lagha are doing good things too so there's hope yet. Right now no one apart from them is doing extremely well internationally so everyone should have a chance. By the way, Skate Canada values domestic results as well. Which is why D/W got that JGP assignment before even doing a summer series event.
 

4everchan

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omg... mango... please don't use D/W for D'Alessandro/Waddel.... it took me about 5 minutes to get it... i was like Davis and White??? WHat??? LOL :laugh2:
we need to find them a spicy nickname ;) what about dawa? or is that too close to wada? LOL
 

olayolay

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Fabbri/Pietrantonio are clearly not going to last. She's already much too tall/big for him and she's only 14. I don't know why SC is wasting any resources on them.
 

4everchan

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Fabbri/Pietrantonio are clearly not going to last. She's already much too tall/big for him and she's only 14. I don't know why SC is wasting any resources on them.

he is indeed very short but so far, he is partnering her well... and that way, she is developing and he as well. Perhaps you are right... they may have to part ways very soon if she keeps growing (he is 2 inches taller as per their ISU bios) BUT, i don't think it's a waste of resources from Skate Canada at all.. they are clearly both good skaters and while together, acquiring experience competing internationally... if they need to switch partners, they will bring that experience to their new partners...

i mean.. think about this ... the chinese federation made the craziest "forced" switch ever with their pair teams... but they were 100% right... does that mean that all the investment they had made in the former pairs is wasted.. obviously not....

anyone has some insight on Justine Brasseur? that is actually something I'd like to hear about... still no partners???? is she doing singles for this year? that's a talent that skate canada needs to nurture... and not in a few years but RIGHT NOW.
 

4everchan

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Skate Canada has announced (on the ISU entries page) the TBA spots for SCI in Regina

Ladies : Larkyn
Men : Nic Nadeau
Pairs : K/D
 

olayolay

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he is indeed very short but so far, he is partnering her well... and that way, she is developing and he as well. Perhaps you are right... they may have to part ways very soon if she keeps growing (he is 2 inches taller as per their ISU bios) BUT, i don't think it's a waste of resources from Skate Canada at all.. they are clearly both good skaters and while together, acquiring experience competing internationally... if they need to switch partners, they will bring that experience to their new partners...

i mean.. think about this ... the chinese federation made the craziest "forced" switch ever with their pair teams... but they were 100% right... does that mean that all the investment they had made in the former pairs is wasted.. obviously not....

anyone has some insight on Justine Brasseur? that is actually something I'd like to hear about... still no partners???? is she doing singles for this year? that's a talent that skate canada needs to nurture... and not in a few years but RIGHT NOW.

There is no way he's even 0.2 inches taller than her. She literally looks twice as wide as him.
 

Mango

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Lol sorry 4everchan...I did realize how similar it sounded but then wasn't sure what to do. Um...D'A/W then? That spells out d'aw which is cute. :)

I've seen Claudio have problems in lifts because of his size relative to Alicia's. They've lost a lot of points due to that. Ideally they should part amicably and find partners better suited to their physiques and ages. But that's up to them.

I'm still waiting for a Justine update. Chloe Choinard posted a photo of some pairs doing lifts and Justine was in the photo, but I can't recognize her partner: https://www.instagram.com/p/BXl58J1he5v/
Nicolas was also lifting her up just for fun a while back.

Congrats to K/D for their SCI assignment. :thumbsup:
 

Osmond4gold

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^^ Thanks Mango! A few of us discussed this in Kaetlyn's Fan Fest and I meant to post it here but was busy with work today.

Even though I was enjoying Summertime evolve, I know others were in "Piaf mourning mode". So it's Christmas in Autumn for some fans!
 

Osmond4gold

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Michelle Long had two splats in her short at SLC, but she still slightly improved her ISU personal best. And Alicia Pineault got her worlds TES minimums.

Watching the Pairs event currently, with KM-T/MM coming up after Alexa & Chris on Chinese live stream http://live.qq.com/10012776 They are just cleaning the ice before the final flight.
 

Osmond4gold

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Looks like KM-T/MM will win the Pairs event in SLC. They had problems on their 2nd lift, half completing it. MM seemed a bit rushed/off through the whole program so I am concerned, given that they are fighting to make the Olympic Team. They skated to the same FS as last year, so I had hoped that they had this timing/connection thing, down pat.

On a positive note, our 4th place Canadian Pairs Team won another International Comp. Can you say DEEP!
 

Mango

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Osmond4gold I realized it was already here (elsewhere) a bit later. I shouldn't be reading Twitter and posting here without looking around. :hopelessness:

So a medal for Liam! What a turn of events after that tough summer he had. He's on the podium, looking happy: https://twitter.com/bell_canon/status/908902196883873792
Here's his FS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxlNia9fWXU
Good for him.

CBC's put up an article about Kirsten & Michael's win: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/figureskating/canada-figure-skating-gold-medal-1.4293211

Ravi's helping out Aurora Cotop: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZEUhJ6Bu-c/

Conrad's gotten a Petro Canada FACE grant: https://twitter.com/CBCOlympics/status/908855117969022976

More coverage for proud daddy 4everchan:
http://olympic.ca/2017/09/15/petro-canada-face-program-funds-55-more-future-olympians-paralympians/
https://twitter.com/petrocanada/status/908778711163527168
https://www.facebook.com/petrocanad...3741842.56809265646/10159582050370647/?type=3

The FACE grant has previously been awarded to Brianna Delmaestro, Nicolas Nadeau, Sarah Tamura, and Joseph Phan.

Medals so far:

1 gold, 1 silver, 2 bronze

4 total
 

jlmart

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I am not sure what is going on but that picture looks like Justine is being lifted by Spencer Howe - who is(or was) a US singles skater. She appears on his Instagram page as well.
 

4everchan

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Osmond4gold I realized it was already here (elsewhere) a bit later. I shouldn't be reading Twitter and posting here without looking around. :hopelessness:

So a medal for Liam! What a turn of events after that tough summer he had. He's on the podium, looking happy: https://twitter.com/bell_canon/status/908902196883873792
Here's his FS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxlNia9fWXU
Good for him.

CBC's put up an article about Kirsten & Michael's win: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/figureskating/canada-figure-skating-gold-medal-1.4293211

Ravi's helping out Aurora Cotop: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZEUhJ6Bu-c/

Conrad's gotten a Petro Canada FACE grant: https://twitter.com/CBCOlympics/status/908855117969022976

More coverage for proud daddy 4everchan:
http://olympic.ca/2017/09/15/petro-canada-face-program-funds-55-more-future-olympians-paralympians/
https://twitter.com/petrocanada/status/908778711163527168
https://www.facebook.com/petrocanad...3741842.56809265646/10159582050370647/?type=3

The FACE grant has previously been awarded to Brianna Delmaestro, Nicolas Nadeau, Sarah Tamura, and Joseph Phan.

Medals so far:

1 gold, 1 silver, 2 bronze

4 total

daddy is very proud his son is showing off his marketable cute face everywhere... now he needs to land his jumps ;)
 

siberia82

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The FACE grant has previously been awarded to Brianna Delmaestro, Nicolas Nadeau, Sarah Tamura, and Joseph Phan.

Plus Gabrielle Daleman, Liam Firus and Roman Sadovsky. :)
 
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