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    Quote Originally Posted by tjb View Post
    with 2 silvers final is 99% guaranteed, not always so with with silver and bronze, nugumanova didn't qualify for the final last year with 2nd and 3rd, but she was first in the substitute list and make it to the final due to withdrawal of other girl.
    Only if Trusova and Tarakanova win their second events 2-2 has big chances for JGPF. With multiple gold winners they will take precedence: 2-1 and 3-1 are better than 2-2. Also as Eusoon skates in Poland winning even silver is going to be difficult.

    Interesting to see how Yelim Kim will perform. She is a very good jumper who backloads everything (strange enough but I have not read yet about how unbalanced her programs are because of that, why, I wonder ) But other than jumping she is very unpolished - at least that what I saw following the link to Korean test skates where she won with 190+ score. Let's see what she can bring competing with Konstantinova and Samodurova and how judges will score her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samkrut@mail.ru View Post
    Only if Trusova and Tarakanova win their second events 2-2 has big chances for JGPF. With multiple gold winners they will take precedence: 2-1 and 3-1 are better than 2-2. Also as Eusoon skates in Poland winning even silver is going to be difficult.

    Interesting to see how Yelim Kim will perform. She is a very good jumper who backloads everything (strange enough but I have not read yet about how unbalanced her programs are because of that, why, I wonder ) But other than jumping she is very unpolished - at least that what I saw following the link to Korean test skates where she won with 190+ score. Let's see what she can bring competing with Konstantinova and Samodurova and how judges will score her.
    i hardly can imagine 6 different gold medalists. does it ever happened?
    there's always at least 2 leading girls who won two events.
    and yeah, yelim kim is pretty strong skater too. korean girls seems like a biggest threat for russian girls this season. thats why i started following them.
    japanese team looks weaker than korean. only rika is really a threat

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    Quote Originally Posted by samkrut@mail.ru View Post
    Only if Trusova and Tarakanova win their second events 2-2 has big chances for JGPF. With multiple gold winners they will take precedence: 2-1 and 3-1 are better than 2-2. Also as Eusoon skates in Poland winning even silver is going to be difficult.

    Interesting to see how Yelim Kim will perform. She is a very good jumper who backloads everything (strange enough but I have not read yet about how unbalanced her programs are because of that, why, I wonder ) But other than jumping she is very unpolished - at least that what I saw following the link to Korean test skates where she won with 190+ score. Let's see what she can bring competing with Konstantinova and Samodurova and how judges will score her.
    I'm actually pretty okay with backloading in the short, but still not a fan of for the long and it's really noticeable in both of Yelim's unfortunately. She has a clear resting point at the end of her step sequence in the short and some puzzling arm choreography in the free that seems like stalling. If she can land everything, I can see a high TES, but pretty sure PCS will be low if I'm being honest like 25 for the short and 54 for the free depending on how they are scoring PCS for the event. I'll be pleasantly surprised if she gets higher than that. She has better spins than Eunsoo though!

    Quote Originally Posted by tjb View Post
    i hardly can imagine 6 different gold medalists. does it ever happened?
    there's always at least 2 leading girls who won two events.
    and yeah, yelim kim is pretty strong skater too. korean girls seems like a biggest threat for russian girls this season. thats why i started following them.
    japanese team looks weaker than korean. only rika is really a threat
    I think it's just a matter of different weaknesses. Korean ladies need to work on their SS, transitions, and spins while the Japanese ladies this season need to fix URs and flip/lutz edges. It's why I'm really curious as to how Young will do because she has Shae-lynn choreography and has the transitions in and out of the jumps which is the go-to fad nowadays.

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    I really hope yelim can do well this season so she can train overseas. Obviously any real training in ss and presentation is not going to happen in korea. I'd especially like to see her stop getting choreo from her current coach, who's obviously more of a jump coach and not someone with artistic/creative vision. Yelim has good jumps and spins, just needs the resources to improve on the pcs.

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    Eun Soo so far is the leader of Korean ladies. Yelim's jump only gets good recently. Last season, she skates very junior-like and she had lots of underrotations. I am actually surprised how much she improved in her jumps. But her presentation is far away from Eun Soo. her SP is OK, but her LP showed visible weakness. She may be on the podium, but I don't think she will win gold this year at a JGP.

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    Poor Young You. It seems that everybody forgotten about her. What are her chances against Gubanova, Mako and the other Russian in Croatia?

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    Well, she didn't skate that well at the test skate, and was not sent to Asian Open. Her jumps are not as consistent as the other two, and her presentation is not quite there. So I rank her after Eun Soo and Yelim.

    Quote Originally Posted by angelicadiablo View Post
    Poor Young You. It seems that everybody forgotten about her. What are her chances against Gubanova, Mako and the other Russian in Croatia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelicadiablo View Post
    Poor Young You. It seems that everybody forgotten about her. What are her chances against Gubanova, Mako and the other Russian in Croatia?
    it's unlikely gonna be gubanova, since she's thrown out of all substitutions lists, and the other russian (vasilieva) is unlikely gonna be there as well. i think tarakanova gets the croatia spot, and may be someone else who medalled already, gulyakova or panenkova (if panenkova will skate well at latvia)
    honestly, from what i've seen from young you this year i wasn't impressed at all. she was landing quad sals at warm ups last year, but this year even her jumps doesn't look that strong, she's underrotating a lot, and presentation never was her strongest side. so, i don't think she have many chances for a podium

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    So, the jgp is skipping this week, and next week it begins again?

    I'm trying to find out more about yelim Kim. She's using la la land for her fs and that river dance reel around the sun music for her sp. She looks very slow and cautious across the ice to me. 😕 But backloading galore.
    Who is her competition from Japan and US and Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluediamonds09 View Post
    So, the jgp is skipping this week, and next week it begins again?

    I'm trying to find out more about yelim Kim. She's using la la land for her fs and that river dance reel around the sun music for her sp. She looks very slow and cautious across the ice to me. 😕 But backloading galore.
    Who is her competition from Japan and US and Russia?
    Riko Takino from Japan, Trusova and Konstantinova from Russia and Tessa Hong from US

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    Lombardia Trophy: Nahyun was 19th in short her jumps are not there, Gyohee Jeon 24th- she needs to work on her power and speed. Protocols: http://www.fisg.it/upload/result/446..._SP_Scores.pdf

    Gyohee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcaO1WiMEBI
    Nahyun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaZfTOdokiI

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