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I think Polina might be more like an Emily Hughes. She has so much talent as a skater and academic. The world is her oyster.
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I think Polina might be more like an Emily Hughes. She has so much talent as a skater and academic. The world is her oyster.
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Pretty BIG if, no?
Not really. She was in a difficult flight of skaters at Finlandia and if she hadn't skated well, I think the judges would have dropped her down in the standings. I do have 1 question....is it possible that Angela was working on a 3A?? She had step outs on her double axels in both programs. I've seen that happen with skaters who are working on a triple axel.
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I honestly think Polina's time has passed. Yes she is/was a very talented skater with a lot of potential and IMO poor packaging. The music, the silly little braids, etc. just didn't fit her - skating to Gone With The Wind...puhleeze. She's very involved in college and her sorority and maybe doesn't have the same steely-eyed commitment she had before. In any case, is Rudi Galindo the best option for a world-class skater? Nothing against Rudi but......
I think so too. Hughes, after 2007, disappeared into the school fold as well...believe she did make a crack at 2010 but wasn't really in contention (plus it was vastly overshadowed by Cohen's comeback attempt).
I follow Edmunds on social media and she is (and was) posting a lot of college/sorority stuff so she seems to have moved on/is enjoying the student life. Skating, especially at the Olympic level, really demands full attention if one is serious about it, and you clearly saw the decline in Hughes' (and later, Rachel Flatt's) skating abilities once they really dug into school. Edmunds will QUICKLY head that route barring a major turnaround (NOT that that's a bad thing BTW - something to be said trying to balance school & high-level athletics).
Also remember that Rachael Flatt also attempted a comeback in 2014 (I know she competed through the last quad, but it felt like one).It didn't work out obviously, but I think she got to exit on her terms and with no regrets (also her SP with that gorgeous dress was wonderful even if not perfect) . I wish the same for Polina.
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Ah, that's right. Actually I just dug up the video from my archives and saw that the Boston crowd gave her a nice ovation at the end of her FS...and she was emotional as well. She knew that was it.
Isn't Edmunds a San Jose native? If so, this Nationals will be in her back yard. She'll have hometown support. That would be a fitting way for her to go out, if that's the path she chooses.
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Angela's double axel is so small, highly doubt she can land a triple axle or working on one.
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Really...That's weird. I don't think I've even seen make a mistake on a double axel. It doesn't really matter, the rest of her skating was brilliant.
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I never said her 2A is small as you seem to claim, but the no I gave mrrice was not working on one. Cheers.
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So true. Pre-rotations should be penalized just as much as underrotations.
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It won’t matter if she skates it clean, but Karen’s Carmen is a huge cliche with the same music cuts and choreography as everyone else has done. I think it’s very blah and it looks like she did the choreography herself.
I couldn't help but hear Julia Roberts say "big mistake".
So disappointed that Chen and S/K are doing Carmen and their programs could not be any more generic and cliche and blah.
These are supposed to be some of the most tenacious skaters and there is no sizzle to their performances. Hopefully they can turn it around.
Hopefully Karen acknowledges now that she has UR issues that need to be tackled, even if certain people don't seem to think so.
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Polina is gritty though. She can compete and she's not afraid. If she does want it and her body cooperates, I wouldn't put it past her to make the team. I say this as someone who wasn't even a fan of her skating. From what I see, she has those qualities way above and beyond Gracie, Karen, Mariah and Angela, as talented as they are.
And I give Mirai credit for sheer stubbornness. If she didn't love skating, she would've hung it up long ago. If resilience is the measure, I'd say the team would be Ashley, Mirai and Polina.
And I give Mirai credit for sheer stubbornness. If she didn't love skating, she would've hung it up long ago. If resilience is the measure, I'd say the team would be Ashley, Mirai and Polina.
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I agree but this is a slippery slope. Tons of skaters - especially ladies - pre-rotate their jumps. I would bet the kiss and cry wait would be like 2-3 mins longer for each skater. Gives way too much extra power to the tech spec too. Maybe it'll be implemented some day, but for now just scrutinizing UR on the landings makes the most sense IMO.
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While among the top men, only Shoma Uno pre-rotates his jumps massively, among the ladies... most ladies pre-rotates their jumps even the Canadian girls like Osmond and Daleman, the difference is mostly the degree. this is really a headache. ISU has to take pre-rotation in the Flip, Lutz and Toe loop in the combo... how much time they will cost the specialists for all of these slowmotion if they want to look at all these cases carefully?
The ISU rulebook does address pre-rotation, but says it must be reviewed in real time, no slow-mo. I actually wish they would do the same with landings; so many jumps called as UR (most often due to a slight hooked landing) actually have better flow than what is being demanded for full rotation.
One thing Edmunds had going for her over the others was her consistency. If she can get it back, she will be in the mix.
Yes, Nagasu has shown great determination lately. She and Wagner share common traits despite having completely different personalities.
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You explain precisely why I would not take Polina off my short list of contenders. Unlike everyone except Ashley and Gracie, she actually has brought her top form to Nationals on many occasions; in fact, she has made the World team every time she has competed at senior Nationals. I am much more confident in a good competitor with questionable form than an inconsistent competitor in great form.
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:agree: funny how that slipped my mind :whack:
This is a seemingly small alteration in the rules that would make a huge difference. The calling of URs, from an audience member's viewpoint, whether in the arena or at home, often seems completely arbitrary and even suspicious, since from the viewer's viewpoint some jumps with called URs look exactly the same as the jump landings from more favored skaters. This creates cynicism in audiences, but as importantly IMO, it robs many audience members of so much satisfaction. They've had the experience of being transported to another place by a skater ... wowed in other words ... and then find that another skater has scored higher because of obscure or downright invisible technical calls.
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Why wouldn't he be? Unlike the vast majority of coaches, he has achieved success at the international level, winning a WBM.
