ISU warns Skate Canada
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Lol...probably more funny than an actual big deal. Who would turn down free earrings? 
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According to the articles, they were from Tessa's line. And therein lies the problem.
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You really should try reading the article.
Per Hersh, the earrings that the judges received were not from Tessa's line, although they were from Hillberg & Berk.
Skaters got “sparkle ball” stud earrings from the Hillberg & Berk “Tessa Virtue Collection.” Judges and other officials received similar sparkle ball earrings from the company’s “Sparkle” collection, earrings some recipients assumed also to be from the skater’s collection because the only difference was in color.
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Read the article again not from Tessa's line at all but from the company that sells the jewelry.
Side note I highly doubt an eighty gift would sway a judge. I think there are bigger issues going on with the judges then if these $80 earrings were a bribe. That is so laughable.
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Well from the articles I read, they seem to suggest that while the earrings given to the other athletes were from Tessa's line, the earrings given to the judges were not. And considering H&B is based in Regina where SCI was held, I'm not surprised that they went to sponsor the event and promote one of their newer lines of jewelry. Even if the earrings given to the judges was from Tessa's line what does that really do? They're like $80. That's definitely not enough to bribe someone to sway to VMs side. Was it a stupid thing of Skate Canada to do? Oh hell yeah (honestly I just think they weren't really thinking about it). but I mean, was it really bribery? Now Skate Canada sucks with the political side of Figure Skating but they are not so stupid to give judges earrings as a bribery (well i mean they could be but always like to think they aren't). Also, unless SCI did something different then most events, gifts are usually given at the end and what good does that do for bribery? There's no guarantee that those judges are going to be the judges the Olympics so what's the point of giving them the earrings as a bribe? I mean, if people just used common sense this whole ordeal wouldn't be as big of a deal as it seems to be but alas, that will never be the case.
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That's a bit awkward...
Also...what about skaters and judges who don't wear earrings? Where's their gift?!
In all seriousness though, they probably should have thought that through...can you imagine what people would say if it had been a Russian skater's jewellery line?
Also...what about skaters and judges who don't wear earrings? Where's their gift?!
In all seriousness though, they probably should have thought that through...can you imagine what people would say if it had been a Russian skater's jewellery line?
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ChanClan referred specifically to the earrings that were given to judges.
And the very passage that you quoted from Hersh's article (which is the exact same passage that I already had quoted) says that the earrings given to judges were from a different Hillberg & Berk collection. They were not from Tessa's collection for Hillberg & Berk.
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Nowhere in my original post did i mention judges. The earrings were given to others besides just judges. A Canadian federation can't be this dumb. Come on.
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This is nothing new.
So besides the judges and officials... the skaters were given the earrings from Tessa's line... What are the other skaters gunna do with the earrings for it to be considered bribery?
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But when ChanClan commented that the earrings given to the judges were not from Tessa's line, you replied (incorrectly, according to Hersh's reporting) that they were.
Your incorrect reply to ChanClan is what I reacted to ... and what some others have reacted to.
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When I was 7 or 8 years old I tried to bribe a nurse with candies to prevent me from getting a shot (unfortunately, it did not work :sad21
Hey... they could have at thrown them a bone at the GPF with a few more +3 GOE 
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Storm in a tea cup.
The earrings given to the skaters were from Tessa's collection.
The earrings given to officials, though, are made by the same company that makes Tessa's earrings, and are understandably similar to Tessa's earrings. But they are NOT Tessa's earrings.
As ChanClan said, it was merely a local sponsor promoting their wares. Ill thought out, but innocent enough.
HOWEVER, what I want to know is why do the officials get gifts like this in the first place? Because it is opening the door to accusations like this.
If the organisers want to thank the officials (who do not get paid for their duties), a much better and more practical way of doing it would be to cover all the costs associated with them being there (travel, accomodation, meals, etc.)
I've no problem with the skaters getting gifts from local sponsors, though, as this could not be seen as influencing results. Figure skating is an expensive game, and it shows their participation is appreciated.
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The earrings given to the skaters were from Tessa's collection.
The earrings given to officials, though, are made by the same company that makes Tessa's earrings, and are understandably similar to Tessa's earrings. But they are NOT Tessa's earrings.
As ChanClan said, it was merely a local sponsor promoting their wares. Ill thought out, but innocent enough.
HOWEVER, what I want to know is why do the officials get gifts like this in the first place? Because it is opening the door to accusations like this.
If the organisers want to thank the officials (who do not get paid for their duties), a much better and more practical way of doing it would be to cover all the costs associated with them being there (travel, accomodation, meals, etc.)
I've no problem with the skaters getting gifts from local sponsors, though, as this could not be seen as influencing results. Figure skating is an expensive game, and it shows their participation is appreciated.
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For GPs, it is standard operating procedure that those costs for officials -- travel, rooms, meals -- ARE covered, either by the host fed or by the ISU.
From the Announcement for the GP series:
The Organizing ISU Member will pay travel expenses based on economy airfare rate for all Skaters/Couples and Judges invited to its ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating event from their domicile to the event and return. The travel expenses of the Referees, Technical Controllers, Technical Specialists and the Data & Replay Operators are covered by the ISU. ...
The Organizing ISU Member will pay accommodation and meal expenses for all Skaters/Couples, Referees, Technical Specialists, Technical Controllers, Data & Replay Operators and Judges from dinner on the day preceding the first official practice through breakfast on the day after the Exhibition. ...
The Organizing ISU Member will pay accommodation and meal expenses for all Skaters/Couples, Referees, Technical Specialists, Technical Controllers, Data & Replay Operators and Judges from dinner on the day preceding the first official practice through breakfast on the day after the Exhibition. ...
From the Announcement for Skate Canada International:
4.1 Meals and Lodging
The organizer will provide and cover the expenses for rooms and meals for all Competitors and Judges participating, beginning with dinner from Wednesday, October 25, 2017 until breakfast on Monday, October 30, 2017. ...
The organizer will provide and cover the expenses for rooms and meals also for the ISU Representative, the Referees, the Technical Controllers, the Technical Specialists, the ISU Grand Prix Coordinator for the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating, the Data and Replay Operators, the Technical staff of ST SPORTSERVICE and the Anti-Doping Control Team during the same period as indicated for the competitors. ...
4.2 Travel Expenses
The Organizing Member will pay travel expenses based on economy airfare rate for all Competitors invited to its ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating event, for all Judges invited as well as the Anti-Doping Control Team, from their domicile to Regina and return. The travel expenses of the Referees, Technical Controllers, Technical Specialists and the Data & Replay Operators are covered by the ISU....
The organizer will provide and cover the expenses for rooms and meals for all Competitors and Judges participating, beginning with dinner from Wednesday, October 25, 2017 until breakfast on Monday, October 30, 2017. ...
The organizer will provide and cover the expenses for rooms and meals also for the ISU Representative, the Referees, the Technical Controllers, the Technical Specialists, the ISU Grand Prix Coordinator for the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating, the Data and Replay Operators, the Technical staff of ST SPORTSERVICE and the Anti-Doping Control Team during the same period as indicated for the competitors. ...
4.2 Travel Expenses
The Organizing Member will pay travel expenses based on economy airfare rate for all Competitors invited to its ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating event, for all Judges invited as well as the Anti-Doping Control Team, from their domicile to Regina and return. The travel expenses of the Referees, Technical Controllers, Technical Specialists and the Data & Replay Operators are covered by the ISU....
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As if skaters like V/M would need to bribe the judges 
And this is Skate freaking Canada, it’s not as if they wouldn’t have won if the earrings weren’t given. If it was the Olympics, then I would understand the reaction.
Ugh, this season is a mess on so many levels.
And this is Skate freaking Canada, it’s not as if they wouldn’t have won if the earrings weren’t given. If it was the Olympics, then I would understand the reaction.
Ugh, this season is a mess on so many levels.
