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skatingpunk

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So the conspiracy theory goes as follows:

The Japanese Skating Federation has greased the pockets of the tech specialist Myriam Loriol-Oberwiler of Switzerland for years, who does in fact have a history of downgrading Yuna. The JSF sees to it that she is the caller for the GPF in Tokyo. She deliberately downgrades Yuna in Japan so that when she deliberately downgrades Yuna in Canada she has "evidence" of Yuna's shaky skating skills to back her up. The JSF has bribed Cinquanta to the tune of heaven knows how many millions of dollars which means Cinquanta the Puppet now has to force Yuna to show up at 4CC so he can wear her out.

Please. This couldn't possibly be true.
 
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Figure88

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Well, Yuna is probably the most favored to win the Olympic gold by the media and skating experts. There will be LOT of media scrutiny over her Olympic performances. That's something going for her, if by some reason, she places second over something as controversial as the call made by the GPF tech specialist.

From the way that Cinquanta is bullying and threatening certain federations, it sounds more like he should be heading the mafia, not a venerable international orgnization like the ISU.
 

janetfan

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Well, Yuna is probably the most favored to win the Olympic gold by the media and skating experts. There will be LOT of media scrutiny over her Olympic performances. That's something going for her, if by some reason, she places second over something as controversial as the call made by the GPF tech specialist.

From the way that Cinquanta is bullying and threatening certain federations, it sounds more like he should be heading the mafia, not a venerable international orgnization like the ISU.

Cinquanta wanted a career in the mafia - but they rejected him being such an idiot. :yes:

Instead he turned to the next best thing - a career in the ISU and IOC. :laugh:
 

Basics

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WOW! Are they using the same tech panel as GPF in the Olympics? very shocking and suspicious indeed.
 

Marrymeyunakim

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They're using the same tech panel from GPF in the Olympics? I really do hope there is no backstage intrigue going on, I really do.
 

Marrymeyunakim

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Just checked. GPF technical judge was Myriam Loriol-Oberwiler. She will be on the technical panel of the Olympics too. Myriam has a history of downgrading Yuna's jumps, doesn't she? I'm not saying Yuna is perfect because she's not, but I hope Yuna doesn't find out that the Olympics will have the same technical panel because it could play with her mind.
 

bigsisjiejie

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So the conspiracy theory goes as follows:

The Japanese Skating Federation has greased the pockets of the tech specialist Myriam Loriol-Oberwiler of Switzerland for years, who does in fact have a history of downgrading Yuna. The JSF sees to it that she is the caller for the GPF in Tokyo. She deliberately downgrades Yuna in Japan so that when she deliberately downgrades Yuna in Canada she has "evidence" of Yuna's shaky skating skills to back her up. The JSF has bribed Cinquanta to the tune of heaven knows how many millions of dollars which means Cinquanta the Puppet now has to force Yuna to show up at 4CC so he can wear her out.

Please. This couldn't possibly be true.

How about a different theory? Knowing that if all the ladies skate their best, the podium has a good chance of being all Korean + Japanese, so the US and Canadian Feds decided to come up with a scheme to rattle the K & J skaters with the hopes of making them crumble under the pressure. Speedy, being the predictable buffoon that he is, of course will try to push the buttons of the KSF and Yuna over 4CC attendance, creating controversy. That wasn't hard, heh, heh. Now get the tech panel for Olympics to match the one that served for GPF. (This one was harder to swing, as obviously many other countries have some solidly credentialled technical specialists that were clamoring for the Oly assignment.) This sets up a Perfect Storm certain to rouse angry, paranoid, and suspicious fans everywhere, and a beautiful vehicle for making the Japanese Fed and eville corporate sponsors the scapegoats. This is all scheduled to be rolled out about 7-8 weeks out from the Oly Ladies Competition, plenty of time for fire-stoking, figurative grenade-throwing, backroom dirty deals, and such. Korea and Japan governments prepare for war. Korea also declares war on Italy.

Oh, the results... The applecarts of Yuna, Mao, and Miki are so completely upset with protests, accusations, and interfered-with warm up sessions, that they all screw up their programs, and Joannie, Rachael, and Julia (Sebestyen) step up to the plate while nobody's looking, skate the rafters off the joint, and grab all the medals. How's that? :biggrin:
 

Basics

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Just checked. GPF technical judge was Myriam Loriol-Oberwiler. She will be on the technical panel of the Olympics too. Myriam has a history of downgrading Yuna's jumps, doesn't she? I'm not saying Yuna is perfect because she's not, but I hope Yuna doesn't find out that the Olympics will have the same technical panel because it could play with her mind.

Unfortunately, she, most likely, will find out before Olympics, and it will put a lot more pressure on her mind. just think about her GPF LP~
 
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Oh, the results... The applecarts of Yuna, Mao, and Miki are so completely upset with protests, accusations, and interfered-with warm up sessions, that they all screw up their programs, and Joannie, Rachael, and Julia (Sebestyen) step up to the plate while nobody's looking, skate the rafters off the joint, and grab all the medals. How's that? :biggrin:

I like Joannie (and Sasha for that matter)'s chances as much as I like anyone elses to be honest. The last two ladies Olympic CHAMPIONS (Sarah Hughes and Shizuka Arakawa) were great skaters but were not considered locks on those titles prior to the Games. Anything could and may happen. :)
 

figurejennah

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Hmm.... if Hersh was correct, it may prove that Yuna's Korean fans weren't crazy all along. I mean, he's not even Korean, so why on earth would he write about something that wouldn't technically even benefit him? I did feel that the rivary between Yuna and Mao was quite intense, and Yuna fans were always extremely protective of her. However, I also felt that Yuna was sometimes judged unfairly with overly strict standards as well. I absolutely believe that her edge calls and 3-3 downgrades were completely biased.


From what I understand, Hersh has been around for a while, and why would he go all of sudden insane (like some people say) and write about these conspiracy theories if he didn't feel that there were some truth behind it?
Honestly, if I were Korean, and trutly adored Yuna, I wouldn't even want her to fly all the way to Korea from Canada to attend this meaningless 4CC RIGHT BEFORE THE OLYMPICS. I just can't see the logical reasoning behind all this pressure, and perhaps Korean people should declare to boycott 4CC if KSU and ISU keep pressuring Yuna. lol. Mao herself (And Yukari) should be enough to attract figure fans at 4CC, just as GPF was successful with Yuna without Mao. We don't need this stupid rivary.

Also, I am sorry to hear that the same GPF tech panels will be at the olympics. Seriously, are they using the same tech who downgraded Yuna's 3-3 and also gave Yuna "e" before?
Yuna's 3-3 and flip are supported by numerous skaters and commentators, and I trutly feel sorry for her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48qQQdB8Ppc

I saw this on youtube yesterday, and this is a clip of a famous Japanese commentator (Sano Minoru) saying that Yuna's 2009 GPF 3-3 jumps were perfect and everyone he knows believes so. (I think that's what he says, because with my little Japanese experience, I could translate about 80% of what he says, but there was also translation in replies. lol)

Anyway, I really hope ISU stop bothering Yuna already.
 
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chloepoco

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Hmm.... if Hersh was correct, it may prove that Yuna's Korean fans weren't crazy all along. I mean, he's not even Korean, so why on earth would he write about something that wouldn't technically even benefit him? I did feel that the rivary between Yuna and Mao were quite intense, and Yuna fans were always extremely protective of her. However, I also felt that Yuna was sometimes judged unfairly with overly strict standards as well. I absolutely believe that her edge calls and 3-3 downgrades were completely biased.


From what I understand, Hersh has been around for a while, and why would he go all of sudden insane (like some people say) and write about these conspiracy theories if he didn't feel that there were some truth behind it?
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This is just my own personal opinion and I may be in the minority here, but regardless of how long Hersh has been around, I don't give much credence to what he says. From reading some of his past articles, to me, he is clearly biased towards certain skaters.
 

adoreyuna

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Hmm.... if Hersh was correct, it may prove that Yuna's Korean fans weren't crazy all along. I mean, he's not even Korean, so why on earth would he write about something that wouldn't technically even benefit him? I did feel that the rivalry between Yuna and Mao was quite intense, and Yuna fans were always extremely protective of her. However, I also felt that Yuna was sometimes judged unfairly with overly strict standards as well. I absolutely believe that her edge calls and 3-3 downgrades were completely biased.

I am sorry for my previous words and ITA.:)

From what I understand, Hersh has been around for a while, and why would he go all of sudden insane (like some people say) and write about these conspiracy theories if he didn't feel that there were some truth behind it?
Honestly, if I were Korean, and trutly adored Yuna, I wouldn't even want her to fly all the way to Korea from Canada to attend this meaningless 4CC RIGHT BEFORE THE OLYMPICS. I just can't see the logical reasoning behind all this pressure, and perhaps Korean people should declare to boycott 4CC if KSU and ISU keep pressuring Yuna. lol. Mao herself (And Yukari) should be enough to attract figure fans at 4CC, just as GPF was successful with Yuna without Mao. We don't need this stupid rivary.

KSU already made a team for 4CC by its own rules. If Yuna were to skate at 4CC, one of that members couldn't make it. Why does Mr.Cinquanta interfere in the internal affairs of KSU? Does he intervene in that of another country and request for another skater?


Also, I am sorry to hear that the same GPF tech panels will be at the Olympics. Seriously, are they using the same tech who downgraded Yuna's 3-3 and also gave Yuna "e" before?
Yuna's 3-3 and flip are supported by numerous skaters and commentators, and I trutly feel sorry for her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48qQQdB8Ppc

I saw this on youtube yesterday, and this is a clip of a famous Japanese commentator (Sano Minoru) saying that Yuna's 2009 GPF 3-3 jumps were perfect and everyone he knows believes so. (I think that's what he says, because with my little Japanese experience, I could translate about 80% of what he says, but there was also translation in replies. lol)

Anyway, I really hope ISU stop bothering Yuna already.

Sano Minoru, HA HA :chorus:
He just hasn't seemed like himself lately, or he is too brave.:bow:
He will definitely receive 49 letters from some people.
 

Figure88

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From what I understand, Hersh has been around for a while, and why would he go all of sudden insane (like some people say) and write about these conspiracy theories if he didn't feel that there were some truth behind it?
Honestly, if I were Korean, and trutly adored Yuna, I wouldn't even want her to fly all the way to Korea from Canada to attend this meaningless 4CC RIGHT BEFORE THE OLYMPICS. I just can't see the logical reasoning behind all this pressure, and perhaps Korean people should declare to boycott 4CC if KSU and ISU keep pressuring Yuna. lol. Mao herself (And Yukari) should be enough to attract figure fans at 4CC, just as GPF was successful with Yuna without Mao. We don't need this stupid rivary.

From the way the article is written, I would guess that Hersh did the following: He heard about the Yuna-4cc controversy from some media outlet/skating forum. He then called up the interested parties, like Cinquanta & Orser, to verify that the facts were indeed true i.e., Cinquanta did indeed threatened KSU with sanctions etc. It seems that as a reporter, he did his share of investigating so that everything was verified before he wrote it. And it's obvious from the substantial parts of the article that he's that stating actual facts rather than giving his own personal opinion on the matter.
 

Figure88

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I am sorry for my previous words and ITA.:)



KSU already made a team for 4CC by its own rules. If Yuna were to skate at 4CC, one of that members couldn't make it. Why does Mr.Cinquanta interfere in the internal affairs of KSU? Does he intervene in that of another country and request for another skater?

ISU head position is mainly an administrative post. What he seems to be doing here is using the power that his position grants to change the outcome of a competition. It is totally disgusting to see such an abuse of power.
 

adoreyuna

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It is decided that Yuna shall skip 4CC by KSU's determination just now:clap:,
so she can devote herself to her skating in Toronto.I am very happy for that.
I hope she is not shaken by these happening.
 

Figure88

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This is just my own personal opinion and I may be in the minority here, but regardless of how long Hersh has been around, I don't give much credence to what he says. From reading some of his past articles, to me, he is clearly biased towards certain skaters.

Well, you have your own biases, so let's leave it at that.
 
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