Men SP - 2014 Russian Championships

CanadianSkaterGuy · Dec 24, 2013

Frenchie said:
IKR! But c'mon, here, his "artistry" purely consisted of crossovers until he was done jumping. But as I said, I can still see him get 9.32 in TR and find that cute

@ 9.32 for TR and 9.60 for CH. I know it's nationals with inflation but that's ridiculous. Even Hanyu at Japanese Nationals didn't score so high and his SP is way more intricate and with better/more transitions. Kovtun should only be 3-4 points behind IMO.

sky_fly20 · Dec 24, 2013

picture at the Press Conference without Zhenya

Voronov and Kovtun
http://instagram.com/p/iTkenVx9dU/#

RemyRose · Dec 24, 2013

LP start orders

1. Samarin
2. Lazukin
3. Milyukov
4. Borodulin
5. Kurbanov
6. Sezganov

7. Dmitriev
8. Petrov
9. Menshov
10. Gorshkov
11. Gachinsky
12. Kvitelashvili

13. Plushenko
14. Voronov
15. Bush
16. Kovtun
17. Kolyada
18. Pitkeev

Sochi_2014 · Dec 24, 2013

seniorita said:
Plyshenko pops jumps commonly??? That's the weirdest statement I ve ever read. Has he ever popped one? The common for him and that ' s not even so frequent is to double his lutz or salchow at the very end of his lp.
I m in love with his axel since ever, he never disappoints me.

I meant double, not pop, sorry for the confusion. My point was that he sometimes leaves points on the table, but the judges have him some cushion to do that.

seniorita · Dec 24, 2013

Sochi_2014 said:
I meant double, not pop, sorry for the confusion. My point was that he sometimes leaves points on the table, but the judges have him some cushion to do that.

I pointed it out cause it is a big difference in marks between popping a jumping and doubling it.

LRK · Dec 24, 2013

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
@ 9.32 for TR and 9.60 for CH. I know it's nationals with inflation but that's ridiculous. Even Hanyu at Japanese Nationals didn't score so high and his SP is way more intricate and with better/more transitions. Kovtun should only be 3-4 points behind IMO.

Well, he's 5,33 (I think? My maths "skills" are absolutely awful... ) behind, so that's not such a big discrepancy, then...

gmyers · Dec 24, 2013

In 2010 nationals it was plushenko 100 and voronov 95 so this is normal.

Tinymavy15 · Dec 24, 2013

DobrinFan said:
Plushenko's jumps were just BRILLIANT!!! So easy, so effortless. The rest of the program is garbage, JMHO.

ITA. Wow. The Freeskate will be more of a test but Evegeni is still showing everyone how its done when quads and triple axels are concerned.

Frenchie · Dec 24, 2013

Tinymavy15 said:
Evegeni is still showing everyone how its done when quads and triple axels are concerned.

Yup.
Only problem: If his LP is structured like his SP, then he'll be done with the jumps after 2 minutes.
What will he do for the rest of the programme?
He can roll his hips for 2,5 minutes straight, that seems to be his most choreographic move. Strike that, it's a transition. Has to be, right?

gmyers · Dec 24, 2013

Frenchie said:
Yup.
Only problem: If his LP is structured like his SP, then he'll be done with the jumps after 2 minutes.
What will he do for the rest of the programme?
He can roll his hips for 2,5 minutes straight, that seems to be his most choreographic move. Strike that, it's a transition. Has to be, right?

He had a 3/5 layout earlier in the season. It was written about here a lot.

Frenchie · Dec 24, 2013

gmyers said:
He had a 3/5 layout earlier in the season. It was written about here a lot.

I know. It was a joke.

CanadianSkaterGuy · Dec 25, 2013

Judging by the practice he seems to have a 4-4 layout. As in 4 jumps reeled off in a row in the first half and 4 jumps reeled off in a row in the second half.

sky_fly20 · Dec 25, 2013

Zhenya did not show up at the Press Conference

Maxim Kovtun Press http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_RCA905xoU

Sergei Voronov Press http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snr1P3mGE8w

gmyers · Dec 25, 2013

Frenchie said:
I know. It was a joke.

He started off the second half with 3a-3t.

seniorita · Dec 25, 2013

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
Judging by the practice he seems to have a 4-4 layout. As in 4 jumps reeled off in a row in the first half and 4 jumps reeled off in a row in the second half.

Arent they all do the same? on 3-5 layout it is even worse in the second half.

Ziggy · Dec 25, 2013

Kutien said:
Evgeni Plushenko SP video

Thank you for sharing all the videos, Kutien. It's very much appreciated.

4toe/3toe was ok [0], 3axel and 3lutz were near perfect [2] and you could use them to show other skaters how it should be done. The control he had on the landings was incredible.

Other than the jumps, everything else is still lacking. He was quite slow for a skater of this standard, choreography was basic (jumps front-loaded, third jumping pass in the same spot as the first) and there were hardly any transitions. Not much happening in between the required elements. Steps and spins were slow.

gmyers · Dec 25, 2013

seniorita said:
Arent they all do the same? on 3-5 layout it is even worse in the second half.

Very true! Like almost all skaters -ladies and men don't start off he second half of their programs with4 or 5 jumps in a row with no transitions in between and nothing goin on but 4 or 5 jumps in a row!

Men SP - 2014 Russian Championships

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RemyRose

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