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Hannah555 said:
That mostly illustrates that Zagitova scores are improving each season... and you forgot to mention this season scores... )))
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There was no point mentioning this season's scores, because someone jokingly asked how was her skating when Gubanova had her first triple, so that was the question I was answering. I am sure everyone here who follows junior ladies knows that Zagitova and Tsurskaya are currently the top skaters.

I am not doubting that Zagitova's score keep improving. That just proved my point - it does not matter whether someone had the triples earlier than others, like Gubanova. Her only advantage was that the federation was aware of her, but the only thing that matter is how the skater skates now, when they are junior eligible. Whether someone had a triple as eight year old or not, and all triples at ten or twelve... who cares now?
 
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hanca said:
There was no point mentioning this season's scores, because someone jokingly asked how was her skating when Gubanova had her first triple, so that was the question I was answering. I am sure everyone here who follows junior ladies knows that Zagitova and Tsurskaya are currently the top skaters.
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Apologies... I got your point now. Totally agree
 
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Videos from Saint Petersburg Championships.

Aleksandrina Degtyareva. She was 3rd. She is rather unkown skater despite the fact that she has scored above 170 points internationally. Anyway, her FS was really good here and she is making really good progress. She is born in 2001.
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRy-IpEuERg
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taWwCDpAN2w

Elizaveta Shilenko. She was 4th. She too is making good progress. She is born in 2003.
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0-YjaxyPzE
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2vTSDm_qj0
 
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Hannah555 said:
That mostly illustrates that Zagitova scores are improving each season... and you forgot to mention this season scores... )))
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Her scores began really improving when she moved from Izhevsk to Moscow to train under Tutberidze.
2014 (under her old coaches): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCDk7adbkfI
2015 (only a year later with Tutberidze): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwTmOKB2m7s

Even her flexibility improved (look at her Biellmann!). I never thought that she would be that successful....:shocked:
 
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The Finn said:
Videos from Saint Petersburg Championships.

Aleksandrina Degtyareva. She was 3rd. She is rather unkown skater despite the fact that she has scored above 170 points internationally. Anyway, her FS was really good here and she is making really good progress. She is born in 2001.
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRy-IpEuERg
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taWwCDpAN2w
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She needs to change countries. Her scores are improving and she may be better than the majority of the ladies at the Europeans, but she is too far behind to get to top three in Russia, which means she will never get to Europeans skating for Russia.
 
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I just noticed that Kamila Valieva is only 10 years old! :shocked: Her birthday will be in the next month. Full date of her birth - 26 April 2006. Except talent she has beautiful appearance. I hope she will only progress. :)
 
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This japanese twitter account posts some interesting videos(not publicly listed) of young russian skaters to their youtube account: https://twitter.com/Jen2pFLSoEDp21e

Here's one girl born in June 2008(youtube), another born January 2009(youtube), and another born August 2009(youtube). I think they're all students from CSKA.

Here's a student of Panova born in the first half of 2008 and here's a couple of interesting skates from an event from St Petersburg(born in 2007 I think). Here's the last SP from Sofia Akatieva at Sambo-70 who was born in 2007.

Over the next couple years(though I don't think it'll be possible to really tell much till 2020 or so) It'll be interesting to see how those born in 2008 and afterwards do as it's likely that many of them were inspired to either start skating or commit to skating because of Sochi.
 
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The Finn said:
Alexandra Egorova 4Lo. She is pretty unknown lady at the moment. She is born in 2002 and she is coached by Sergey Davydov.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usgRfuoPU8s
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I am not quite sure how a quad is going to help her if her scores from this last season were 137-157. She needs to find a way to make up approximately 40 points to be competitive with top Russian junior ladies. If I was her coaching team, I would concentrate more on all other elements, to make sure that all jumps are consistent and all spins and steps are level four. She is far too behind the Russian junior ladies, so the quad on its own is not going to make a significant difference to her scoring.
 
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hanca said:
I am not quite sure how a quad is going to help her if her scores from this last season were 137-157. She needs to find a way to make up approximately 40 points to be competitive with top Russian junior ladies. If I was her coaching team, I would concentrate more on all other elements, to make sure that all jumps are consistent and all spins and steps are level four. She is far too behind the Russian junior ladies, so the quad on its own is not going to make a significant difference to her scoring.
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Well, I think Plushi knows what he is doing. He won some medals at olympic games and worldchamps, so he probably knows better what is good for his pupils.

btw the quads, they are practicing, have a psychological nature. specially Doshirak needs some positive experience.
 
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mihailovs said:
Well, I think Plushi knows what he is doing. He won some medals at olympic games and worldchamps, so he probably knows better what is good for his pupils.

btw the quads, they are practicing, have a psychological nature. specially Doshirak needs some positive experience.
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Pluschenko won medals at Olympic games, but that doesn't mean that his students will automatically win them too. Being a succesful skater does not automatically translate to being a successful coach. Pluschenko was winning all those medals under a different judging system, and his inexperience with this current system cost him the gold medal when skating against Lysacek, a skater who did not even have a quad in his program but knew how to use the system to maximise his points.
 
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