If you ask the Tech panel from the Ladies FS,
Almost no one has faultless jumping technique
For Ashley Wagner, How is hopping into a perfectly good 2Axle right out of a triple telegraphing ?
For the men you only have to look at Maxim Kovtun for an example of terrible jump technique.
Why do women have a harder time with Lutz? Sorry if this is a not-PC question or if it leads to not-PC answers. It's been bugging me some time. When I look at the protocols of any international event almost always I see majority of top 10 finishers were unable to execute correct Lutz.
Its the only jump where I see a stark difference between men and women, technique-wise.
Anna does both lutz and flip without edge cals. Her jumps are big with good flow on the landing. I would give her the nice jumps award for this Worlds, with honorable mention to Mao's triple axel, which Anna does not have.
Julia was called for flutzing again at Worlds btw.
Julia has horrible technique on all her jumps. Unstable edges but she lands them because she is small. Her lutz, flip, and axel are all really bad
Just a guess but maybe because it's one of the last triples (I think) a junior/senior lady learns so it still needs improvement/refinement compared to the other "easier" triples, even when the lutz is in the program. Also, flutzes are a common habit among lower level skaters, and it's common for coaches to never attempt to fix it. Especially when one has done flutzes for years, it's very hard to break the habit, and changing the jump could possibly result in the skater losing the jump altogether. Maybe coaches figure why not land a triple flutz combo than fall on a triple lutz...?
It can sometimes be that a woman will lip/lutz due to the shape of her legs. In other words, if a woman is very bow-legged, then she can lutz without even having the muscular strength per se but because nowadays, under CoP, you can do a lutz with a very short preparation, which, in fact, is not a 'true' lutz. Carolina does a true lutz in that she has a long prep. I sometimes wonder if she maintains the outer edge the whole way through, though.
What are you talking about? Doing a lutz with short preparation is not a "true lutz"? Doing a lutz with long prep is a true lutz?
If Carolina was capable of doing Julia-style transitions into all her triples she would have the best technique IMO. Since she isn't, I agree Yuna in general. I'd agree with you on Mao's toe jumps (not only the flutz, but her flip entry is rather unorthodox and her 3T combinations were never the best) but her loop combinations are among the best. Adelina's 3-3Loop may be more rotated on a good day but Mao's 3-3Lo combinations have smoother landings with slightly better flow out.Yuna had the best jump technique. Not because of height but because of her landings and flow out. I still think height is about the least important 'bullet'to satisfy. If you can't flow right back into the music and weave your jumps into your artistry than I loose interest very quickly and to be frank don't see the point. I mean the jumps have to be performed well but I don't lik it when they disrupt the program via stalking or worse landing at a near crawl. Other than Mao's 3a I wouldn't try to jump like her. I don't even think I'd want to jump like Yulia. She spins so hard it seems quite painful but then again I'd rather eat scissors than attempt any of her spins.. I like Tuks jumps but I think she is a prime example of a jumper overly focused on height and maybe jumps too high for her frame and now just falls a lot. Jumping smaller and more controlled sometimes is smarter. Yulia steals +2's sometimes for her jumps based on multiple other bullets used to award GOE. It's like performing a level 3 StSeq for higher GOE than failing to deliver a level 4.
Where's that jump dictionary that says a Lutz requires a long, telegraphed set up?
I guess Carolina Kostner has the truest Lutz in the world!What are you talking about? Doing a lutz with short preparation is not a "true lutz"? Doing a lutz with long prep is a true lutz?
The Lutz is a counter rotated jump. It takes off from a LBO edge (with toe pick assist), turns, then lands on the RBO edge. It is one of the most recognizable of jumps, because it is usually entered from a very long straight backwards glide across the full diagonal of the arena. After the long glide on the left foot, the skater usually leans a little bit to the left (proving to the judges that she is on an outside edge), picks with the right foot and jumps.
This issue has been discussed previously, and it has been noted that women tend to flutz, and men tend to lip alot in competition. The reason, as I recall, is that men are naturally stronger than women, so they have th muscular strength to stay on the outer edge, and as long as you have the ability to stay on an outer edge, then it is actually a more secure edge to take off from than the inner edge, so men will lip their flip. Women, on the other hand, tend not to have the muscular capacity to easily stay on the outer edge, or at least they don't have the muscular strength to stay on the outer edge all the way through to the moment of take off, so they tend to flutz.