You can still be on the olympic podium with 6 triples?...and that was Yu-Na....if she comes back and does 6 triples in South Korea she would still be on the podium (center of it, likely), believe me.
I'm saying there were many ladies 25 years ago that could do the same technical content as now, certainly not as many but there were many. No men or pairs team 25 years ago could do the same technical content or (for pairs) execute it as well.
Mao did practice quad salchow when she was younger, but really the judging system doesn't provide much incentive for the dramatic risk increase. At the time, she was a junior and didn't need the new jumps to win anyway.
I don't blame skaters for backloading their programs with triple-triples, as they don't have incentive to try more difficult jumps. I feel like ladies skating has stagnated in jump content not because of their ability but because their is not enough incentive to continue pushing the boundaries
Evgenia tried the 4S and she could fight but she also said that you can see when a jump is not your own.
I think Eteri also said in a recent interview that we will see a new girl from her group able to land 4S or 3A.
So did you just forget that Yuna got 75 TES, 73 PCS and 148 FS score at 2013 worlds with just 6 triple and average backloading? And that was before score was inflated like it is recently.The only person who ever scored higher than 148 is Sotnikova at olympics and Medvedeva at worlds 2016. That's it. Being a veteran + a home skater, Yuna could get 76-77 TES and 76-77 PCS with a clean skate.As for Yuna Kim on podium with 6 triples - not possible even in Korea, because the PCs have an upper limit, and there are many ladies now who get Yu Na level PCs, we lik it or not, and those scores won't drop for Olympics. Gracie Gold was 4th in USA with 6 triples - the only one who did 6 triples in the FS in top 10 ^^
The trend nowadays is towards slim skaters who rotate quickly in the air, however in the past there were some extremely muscular and powerful skaters like Ito, Harding, and Bonaly who could do some amazing jumps.
When you watch Harding's 3A it really puts to shame the feeble attempts you see from the female skaters nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOP3Dj0DraQ&t=45s
Yup. I also noticed how different in general are ladies skaters physiques vs the 90s. They more often seemed to have more muscles on their legs and thighs. My father called them ''dupiaste'' - ''with butts'' but in kind manner.
Perhaps why I like Gabrielle Daleman. For me she's like a throwback to the Ito days. Never thought I'd be impressed with a 3T-3T combination at this day and age like I've been with her. Just the height and the edge, and the speed.
Just saw the Tonya's clip again and wow, her speed is amazing. She's like a speed skater!
If the likes of Tonya and Midori can't do quad, I don't think Wakaba and Gaby can legitimately rotate them on a regular basis. They don't jump as big or have the same kind of speed.
The simple fact is women's bodies change too much during puberty to expect their suddenly to be a whole bunch of girls doing 3axels or quads. We might see the occasional skater land a 3axel when they are 14 and tiny but what happens when their body changes? As for quads it will take someone like a Midori Ito to pull that off and someone like that only comes along once every 30 years or so and as of now we are still waiting otherwise it's not happening.
Well, Liza Tuktamysheva landed perfect 3A at Worlds while being already after puberty... and it was only two years ago. And she isn't the tiniest of Ladies. So it is possible. (But of course, she has trained it first before she hit puberty). But I think there aren't that many coaches who could teach properly 3A or quad. Liza other than having natural talent was also lucky to have Mishin as a coach....
Even many men are not able to jump/land a quad
Look at how many of the quad jumpers are injured, how can you expect from a growing girl to jump quads
I think the technique is different, the women don't jump as high as they used to. That's because the want good flow out of the jump, so that they can do those difficult combos that weren't necessary a couple of years ago. Triple-triple combinations for women were very rare in the 1980's and became more common slowly. But this different technique might also make the 3A or quads more difficult for ladies nowadays. Most of the ladies who do a 2A-3T in the FS don't have a very high 2A, but very good speed out of the jump.Wonder if with all the top women now doing 7 triples and 2 double axels, how much of this is down to improved training, technique and fitness compared with just a few years ago. If so 3As and quads may be a bit closer than what people think, though a certain degree of athleticism will always be required no matter what.