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I think we will see a lot more 4Tw on the way to OS 2018:
Duhamel/Radford ?
Savchenko/Massot ?
Volosozhar/Trankov ?
The quad twist
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I think we will see a lot more 4Tw on the way to OS 2018:
Duhamel/Radford ?
Savchenko/Massot ?
Volosozhar/Trankov ?
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Katya wrote in her book, My Sergei, that when they performed it it was misidentified as a triple twist at Worlds and decided it was not worth it.
If i was coaching Tarasova/Morozov i would be pushing them to do a quad twist for sure. Their triple twist is already one of the best in the world. And unlike some of their competitors they have youth on their side to keep upgrading there elements.
From what's been said about Savchenko/Massot I could see them trying it, they seem to be all about the big tricks. Didn't Trankov require shoulder surgery last year that kept them out all last season? I wonder if his shoulder could handle training new/harder tricks - especially if they are trying to make it to 2018...
Yeah dunno, + V/T are reasonably old, and probably should rather rely on PCs / GOE than risking an injury.
I loved the quad twist by Peng Zheng/Hao Zhang performed at 4CC. I think their size difference really helped them pull it off. I would love too see Tarasova/Morozov do one as well, such lovely height on their triple twist.
I don't think Duhamel/Radford can do one, they barely have any height on their triple.
I don't think Duhamel/Radford can do one, they barely have any height on their triple.
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Kostiukovich/Ialin have a nice one 
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One of my all-time favorite Tweets. We didn't see this last season, and I'm sure this was prior to Alexa's surgery. They had (and I'm sure can get back!) a stunning 4Tw. Please, please! Show it to us next season! (Sorry, this is slightly OT! 
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I honestly surprised I haven’t heard anything abou Tarasova/Morozov competing/training one because their twists are just so good.
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They were doing it for the Olympic season, but with the new rule changes and their consistency issues, they probably decided it wasn’t worth it anymore.
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There is no limitation for the number of revolutions in the twist lift for the FS unless I missed something?
The rules are vague on the throws for the FS, but it doesn't say it can't be performed.
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They’re just worth so few points now, compared to the risk. And from the ISU (and fan) rhetoric on the subject, they’re worth that little just so that pairs won’t try them. (But they are not outright banned, no.)
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the Base Value has been lowered so much that it's better and safer for pairs to perform a better level triple twist or triple throw.
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I totally agree with this however, does the same apply to the singles? That is my point.
not quite... and as a matter of fact, the technical level this year has been growing in singles.... to the point that we had two ladies in seniors doing 3a and the first ever landed quad in seniors ladies...
we had a whole discussion about this a year ago.... pretty much, some of the folks think that the ISU has stopped pairs evolution... even the teams who had 4twist or 4throws are no longer doing them (the knierims, sui-han, james-cipres, tarasova-morozov)
