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Polina Tsurskaya

cronos27

Rinkside
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Nov 6, 2017
I am very worried about Polina's health, but I can not rule out that it is something mental that happens to her. I saw it very bad today
 

bloomies20

Rinkside
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Mar 14, 2018
Bad couple of days for her. Her jumps and spins have been so subpar recently. I hope that she just needs to some time to get into competition shape and that she is not injured in any way.
 

IonGrey

Rinkside
Joined
Jan 6, 2018
What scares me is that other than her 3S and 2A, none of her jumps are consistent.

Test skates SP: 3Lz (fall)
Test skates LP: 3Lo (fall)
Ondrej Nepela SP: 3F<, 3Lz<, 3T<<
Ondrej Nepela LP: 3Lz< (fall), 1Lz (pop), 2Lo (pop)

That being said, Polina seems severely underscored on her spins and steps. In general, her spins are centered with good speed & transitions between positions - why isn't she getting +3 and +4 like other skaters? I also don't understand why her steps are Level 2, I am always counting 10+ turns and steps so they should be StSq3 if not StSq4. And don't get me started on the PCS...

It's still early in the season and Polina must have her hands full learning the choreo plus adjusting to a new coach. Coaching switches are tough, even someone like Zhenya also made several mistakes and did not score anywhere near her PR. But I won't forget anytime soon the moment at the end of her test skates FS when she couldn't do her layback... scary. Best wishes Polina, there is still time to improve and we are all praying for your health!
 

ewdokia

On the Ice
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Jan 16, 2014
For those worrying if Polina might be injured: I don’t think her jumps were affected by injury. They were fine in practice. It looks like Polina just can’t control her nerves during competition at the moment. It even shows in practice: while her jumps were generally fine, they seemed more labored during the run-through on Saturday and she also made mistakes there. It was like she was already tensed. I think she just needs to give herself a little more time, that’s all.

Buyanova was visibly also very disappointed with her free – if the mistakes were due to injury, she’d expected the mistakes. I very much hope, this problem can be solved.
 

CatonBlades

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Sep 7, 2017
I saw. It's not terrible. Just remove the gloves and sleeves and she will be fine. It reminded me of Adelina's pink dress she wore when she won JrW. I didn't like the sleeves/gloves on that one either but the dress was fine. Not a fan of pink but whatever makes her happy.

Well the most important thing is to correct the levels for her step sequence (where is Zavosin? :palmf:) and get those jumps rotated.

By the way, Polina has a new fan group on VK https://vk.com/ptsurskaya
More pics from the Ondrej Nepela here (under all pictures) https://m.vk.com/photos-162295075

About the dress...
Polina's new dress for SP,made by Sergei Lavin
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoT0MsiByOp/?taken-by=levin.s
The sketch
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoT0ZBbh5Ip/?taken-by=levin.s
It seems that Sergei Lavin makes the dresses for the girls trained by Elena Germanovna.
I was surprised when I saw it, and about the colour,too...
But...as long that SHE chosed it, SHE likes it and SHE is confortable with the dress, it doesn't matter if the dress is pink, blue, black, with dotts or with strips.Because Polina is the one who skates wearing that dress and it's factor for being calm and confident before the competition.Her coach, her choreographer...they can make suggestions about the dress, but not chose for her.
Polina is a sensitive and shy girl,so it's not right to "receive"a dress without having a world to say about it.
So, as I already said, I hope that she is ok with the dress.If not, she can still change it untill the GP.

Thank you for the link of her new vk fan group.
The admin of her new vk fan group is waiting for new contributions for Polina (drawings, poems, videos, collages etc) so, let's make some,too.
 

Azikin

Medalist
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Jan 12, 2018
Thank you for the link of her new vk fan group.
The admin of her new vk fan group is waiting for new contributions for Polina (drawings, poems, videos, collages etc) so, let's make some,too.
I joined but I'm not sure if I should send my drawing, considering that it was a gift for her.. :scratch2:
 

RemyRose

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Dec 28, 2005
Country
United-States
About the dress...
Polina's new dress for SP,made by Sergei Lavin
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoT0MsiB...ken-by=levin.s
The sketch
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoT0ZBbh...ken-by=levin.s
It seems that Sergei Lavin makes the dresses for the girls trained by Elena Germanovna.

There's several costume makers actually. Gubanova dresses weren't designed by Lavin, neither are the juniors girls/boys or the men, except maybe Kovtun. Don't know how all this is decided but it's seems they are at least given a choice.
 

CatonBlades

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Sep 7, 2017
There's several costume makers actually. Gubanova dresses weren't designed by Lavin, neither are the juniors girls/boys or the men, except maybe Kovtun. Don't know how all this is decided but it's seems they are at least given a choice.

Lavin made the dresses for Maria Sotskova and Elena Radionova.
Like I said, it doesn't matter who made the dress, just to let her chose and the designer to respect her personality.
 

CatonBlades

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I joined but I'm not sure if I should send my drawing, considering that it was a gift for her.. :scratch2:

Great!!
I joined,too.And I submitted few things...
Why not?
The admin is very kind and after all, all the drawings are made for Polina,no?
 

RemyRose

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Lavin made the dresses for Maria Sotskova and Elena Radionova.
Like I said, it doesn't matter who made the dress, just to let her chose and the designer to respect her personality.

I sure they did, not sure why fans would assume otherwise. Like I said earlier, not sure why people are making such a big fuss over the dress anyway. It's fine.
 

CatonBlades

On the Ice
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Sep 7, 2017
For those worrying if Polina might be injured: I don’t think her jumps were affected by injury. They were fine in practice. It looks like Polina just can’t control her nerves during competition at the moment. It even shows in practice: while her jumps were generally fine, they seemed more labored during the run-through on Saturday and she also made mistakes there. It was like she was already tensed. I think she just needs to give herself a little more time, that’s all.

Buyanova was visibly also very disappointed with her free – if the mistakes were due to injury, she’d expected the mistakes. I very much hope, this problem can be solved.

Lucky you that you could see her skate live!
Did you talked to her,too?
I'm worried, too, for Polina's health because she didn't had full summer for training, like the others because of health issues.
Great to know that in practice the jumps are ok.
About the nerves, I saw it even from test skating.She was scared after SP, when she felt at the combination, at FS...and, on Ondrej Nepela,too.
It's natural to fear from a new injury, but I wonder how her team talked to her after Novogorsk.
She is the kind of skater who needs to feel the support from her coach.
I agree, she needs to give herself a little bit more time, but not only by herself.
What's the meaning of a team?
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think that a an athlete needs coach's support at the ending of the program,too, not only before the start.
Polina is shy, yes, but the coaches from her team have experience and they can cope with bad moments easier than her and help her to see beyound the disappointments and to go ahead, not regreting, not looking back.
It's a little bit difficult at the start from all of them, Polina and her team, but I hope they'll find the proper way to communicate and that she can relax and skate clean.
 

CatonBlades

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I sure they did, not sure why fans would assume otherwise. Like I said earlier, not sure why people are making such a big fuss over the dress anyway. It's fine.

Hm...maybe the fans were shocked about the colour...lol
And maybe because the girls from CSKA are "Barbie like"and Polina is not that type.
I think that she is more elegant and misterious.
lol Thinking a little bit, we already saw Polina wearing this kind of pink at Novogorsk, with Tatiana Anatolievna's scarf, no?
 

Azikin

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Jan 12, 2018
Hm...maybe the fans were shocked about the colour...lol
And maybe because the girls from CSKA are "Barbie like"and Polina is not that type.
I think that she is more elegant and misterious.
lol Thinking a little bit, we already saw Polina wearing this kind of pink at Novogorsk, with Tatiana Anatolievna's scarf, no?

I definitely think dark colors suit her more... and the dress should make her hands stand out, this one is doing exactly the opposite.. :scratch2:
 

RemyRose

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CoRII SP https://youtu.be/7ZTGLq20Gew
CoRII LP https://youtu.be/sEFnJA3jZIQ

Pics from Sharov from the SP https://www.instagram.com/p/BokUKECBP8M/?taken-by=mihail_sharov
Extra photos here including practice and LP: https://m.vk.com/album-162295075_256983617

Wow, the quality of the video and pictures are such a step up from Ondrej Nepela! You can see everything in much better detail.

Also, for all you peeved about this dress, Sharov said it will be changed, this is only temporary. Also that live the color isn't pink but lilac not that it matters :laugh:
 

CatonBlades

On the Ice
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Sep 7, 2017
Polina's FS
Photos
https://m.vk.com/photo-162295075_456242906?list=wall-162295075_113&from=profile
https://m.vk.com/photo-162295075_456242907?list=wall-162295075_113&from=profile
https://m.vk.com/photo-162295075_456242908?list=wall-162295075_113&from=profile
https://m.vk.com/photo-162295075_456242902?list=wall-162295075_111&from=profile
https://m.vk.com/photo-162295075_456242908?list=wall-162295075_113&from=profile
https://m.vk.com/photo-162295075_456242903?list=wall-162295075_111&from=profile
https://m.vk.com/photo-162295075_456242903?list=wall-162295075_111&from=profile
https://m.vk.com/photo-162295075_456242904?list=wall-162295075_111&from=profile
Video
https://m.vk.com/video-162295075_456239153?list=aa1cd514310d9687a2&from=wall-162295075_115
From the training
https://m.vk.com/ptsurskaya?z=photo-162295075_456242901/wall-162295075_107
https://m.vk.com/ptsurskaya?z=photo-162295075_456242900/wall-162295075_107
Well, I see a progress from Nepela.She made her combinations today (without the one with 3, but it's a progress and for now, it's important).
A little bit more confidence, so it's good.
I wait for more implication from her team, to talk with her more.
I hope she'll find a person with whom she feels comfortable at CSKA,too.I mean, more.
She has more than a week to fix that UR problem with her jups and I know she can.Because she is extraordinary and a fighter.
I hope that her choreographer will help her to train more and to understand better the programs.And I mean Nikita Mikhailov because I don't have this kind of expectations from TAT.Choreographer's role isn't finished when the program is delivered to the skater.
I:love:her programs, there are a lot of potential from them.
Now, let's practice and better understand them.And the results will be awesome.:luv17:
 

CatonBlades

On the Ice
Joined
Sep 7, 2017
CoRII SP https://youtu.be/7ZTGLq20Gew
CoRII LP https://youtu.be/sEFnJA3jZIQ

Pics from Sharov from the SP https://www.instagram.com/p/BokUKECBP8M/?taken-by=mihail_sharov
Extra photos here including practice and LP: https://m.vk.com/album-162295075_256983617

Wow, the quality of the video and pictures are such a step up from Ondrej Nepela! You can see everything in much better detail.

Also, for all you peeved about this dress, Sharov said it will be changed, this is only temporary. Also that live the color isn't pink but lilac not that it matters :laugh:

Yes, I saw that the quality of the pics are faar better now than the ones from Nepela.
About the dress...let's wait what Polina wants and makes her happy.
It's good that on her new vk fangroup there are a lot of informations and news about her competitions.:love:
Did you joined,too?
 

Azikin

Medalist
Joined
Jan 12, 2018
I:love:her programs, there are a lot of potential from them.

Really? I feel she needs something to stand out more... for example I like her black training clothes more than her current dresses... ;) also her jumps are still :think:
At least there was some progress from Nepela, that's true...
 

Fluture

Record Breaker
Joined
Apr 26, 2018
Really? I feel she needs something to stand out more... for example I like her black training clothes more than her current dresses... ;) also her jumps are still :think:
At least there was some progress from Nepela, that's true...

I don‘t like her SP dress at all, it really isn‘t flattering. That pink looks... ugh. It doesn‘t do her justice at all.

Her jumps seemed better than at Nepela but... if she wants that Russian #3 spot she really has to up her game. She has all the goods to make it but I‘m somehow not confident in Team Buyanova. They never seem to be able to fix UR issues. And Polina has underrotated in every competition so far. She seemed so happy after her clean SP at the Russian Cup event only then to be surprised and then disappointed by her score. It could have been WAY higher if not for those damned URs. :(

I quite like her FS this season. It really suits her. Love the music. Not sure about the SP but maybe it‘s the abomination that dress is that distracts me.

(Sorry, I always want to be positive but I really can‘t find any flattering words about that dress)
 
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