Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
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Time for evaluation of #TeamMishin's approach ... in everything concerning Tuktamysheva.
Will she draw her own conclusions or still trust the Professor?
A competitive next season as a member of the National Team of Russia is unlikely, but does she aspire a pro career? She has this old fashioned sass and spunk ...
She has wonderful technical ability, she is still capable of competing with quad girls, and I believe that she can execute 4 jump especially toeloop. However, I think she has to switch away Mishin. He could not improve her presentation skills. She can earn above 80 points technically, but her pcs still below 70s. If someone improve her pcs and liza change her skating style she will slay.
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Why should she go pro? She's got 3 triple axels. I agree that there are improvements to be made regarding jump layouts, PCSs and so on, but she's still consistently scoring over 200 points. You don't know how the next season is going to pan out. I hope that Liza and Zhenya stick around. They don't have to retire just because of Eteri's new seniors.
its too late for that, did you saw her mistakes if she adds in more transitions
this is where this applies "its hard to teach old dogs new tricks" with that workload and mindset in training
I think she still can, the only way is to go up technically.
next season she will need to add the 4T , same as Med needs the 4S to be competitive.
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I disagree. How many thought Zagitova would bomb Nationals so badly last season? How many thought Rika would win Worlds? It’s not over for any of these ladies yet.
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Sorry Liza, you got robbed.
Satoko's FS score beating Liza's FS score is right up there with Kostner beating Pogo for World Bronze in 2014.
I remember that and being so devastated for Pogo especially after all the medals Carolina had won all those years. That was clearly unfair and I feel for Liza today. The judges are saying it loud and clear that they don't like what she's doing and are scoring her accordingly. That seems ridiculous and unfair. Someone landing triple axels being beaten by someone who does not. It seems strange but with the way they're judging things this year it's not. The isu also did not want five Russian ladies at GPF. That would be an embarrassment for the rest of figure skating.
It was little frustrating to witness Liza receiving 8 points more in TES for her free skate than Satoko and it still wasn't enough.
Her SP mistake doomed her.
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Well I for one would never want Liza to leave Mishin. He's supported her and is like a father to her.
Besides, even if thr rules and the judges don't like her programs I love them and it would be a loss if she turned into a Eteri skater with too many transitions and not enough sass.
That's my opinion as unpopular as it may be
Besides, even if thr rules and the judges don't like her programs I love them and it would be a loss if she turned into a Eteri skater with too many transitions and not enough sass.
That's my opinion as unpopular as it may be
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Well I for one would never want Liza to leave Mishin. He's supported her and is like a father to her.
Besides, even if thr rules and the judges don't like her programs I love them and it would be a loss if she turned into a Eteri skater with too many transitions and not enough sass.
That's my opinion as unpopular as it may be
No need to say mean things about Eteri skaters to say a nice thing about Liza.
She doesn’t need that, she has the qualities, she has the performance, and she’s got the sass like no one else
She’s been adding more transitions in her short, doing bracket entries into her 3A and I think I like seeing more complexity from Liza, whether or not it’s turning her into „Eteri skater“
She’s a fighter, she will persevere any judging and underscoring, and will be even stronger than before. It’s a shame things turned out the way they did and she’s likely not making it into gpf, I’d say getting the gp that she did was just a pure bad luck.
But I’m glad Liza is out there not for medals or podiums, her personal goal is to prove herself she can skate at a high level for a continuous period of time.
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No need to say mean things about Eteri skaters to say a nice thing about Liza.
She doesn’t need that, she has the qualities, she has the performance, and she’s got the sass like no one else
She’s been adding more transitions in her short, doing bracket entries into her 3A and I think I like seeing more complexity from Liza, whether or not it’s turning her into „Eteri skater“
She’s a fighter, she will persevere any judging and underscoring, and will be even stronger than before. It’s a shame things turned out the way they did and she’s likely not making it into gpf, I’d say getting the gp that she did was just a pure bad luck.
But I’m glad Liza is out there not for medals or podiums, her personal goal is to prove herself she can skate at a high level for a continuous period of time.
Yeah sorry I shouldn't have said that. It's not that I don't enjoy Eteri's sksters programs, but I like to see different things too and I feel like people want to change everything that makes Liza, Liza.
It just seems weird to me that if you're a fan of a skater and that skater has a certain special style you'd want it to change. Just find a different skater with those qualities to focus on.
I love Sasha T for example, but I don't expect or want her to skate like Satoko even though Satoko's skating is beautiful.
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Agreed.
Lizas opportunities to make the Grand Prix final are slipping by and this was a missed opportunity.
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amazing EX. :luv17: It was hard to skate smth after the hit that was the flight attendant Liza but she managed to deliver! Im in awe. Its so different! :luv17:
Good performance generally at both GPs.
Yep SPs werent the best (especially here I was pretty sad that she helped the judges with her mistakes
) & together with the tendency of underscoring I expected her not making the GPF so Im not devastated as I would be if I had any hopes.
So now Im chilling & enjoying watching our Empress owning the ice
Also my BIG thanks goes to the genious Shae Lynn!
What a marvellous SP she created for Liza!!! I hope they will continue to work together!
Good performance generally at both GPs.
Yep SPs werent the best (especially here I was pretty sad that she helped the judges with her mistakes
) & together with the tendency of underscoring I expected her not making the GPF so Im not devastated as I would be if I had any hopes.So now Im chilling & enjoying watching our Empress owning the ice
Also my BIG thanks goes to the genious Shae Lynn!
What a marvellous SP she created for Liza!!! I hope they will continue to work together!
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The next realistic goal for her would be to top her SB at Golden Spin. I hope that happens.
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Yeah but Golden Spin is before RusNats, that's why I said "next". Of course RusNats are more important but she needs to stay among the top 9 Russians on the SB list just to be on the safe side when it comes to next year's GPs.
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