2015-16 Russian Qualifiers and other events

Despite fall, absolutely enjoyable skating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgOzRx5YpH8
Yana has the beautiful body. But she needs triple-triple and more speed.

Apparently the entire team of Sergei Davydov is moving to CSKA. Any idea why he would choose to do this?

stryke said:

Apparently the entire team of Sergei Davydov is moving to CSKA. Any idea why he would choose to do this?

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Better facilities and funding? Just a guess.

What's the difference between "yunoshetskyi rozriad" and "sportivnyi rozriad"?

boskil said:

What's the difference between "yunoshetskyi rozriad" and "sportivnyi rozriad"?

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"Yunoshetskyi rozriad" means "child's grade". They skate only simplified FS.
3rd child's grade - duration 2 m 10 s, 3 jumping elements less than double including 1 combo of 2 jumps, 2 spins maximum Level 1, one choreo sequence.
2nd child's grade - duration 2 m 30 s, 4 jumping elements (one 1A), 1 combo of 2 jumps, no junps of 2.5 turns or more, one combo of 2 jumps, 2 spins maximum Level 2, one choreo sequence.
1st child's grade - duration 2 m 30 s, 4 jumping elements (one 1A or 2A), 2 combos of 2 jumps, triples not allowed, 2 spins maximum Level 2, one choreo sequence.
Child's grades are limited by age. Ttey are only for children.

"Sportivnyi rozriad" means "sports grade". Both SP and FS.
2nd sports grade - like International Advanced Novice.
1st sports grade - a bit simplified Junior. In SP may be any solo jump (2 or 3 turns) and 3A is not allowed (only 2A), 6 (girls) or 7 (boys) jumping elements in FS, all other - as Junior.
Formally sports grades are not limited by age, but in practice are age limits.

1. So chronologically "yunoshetskyi rozriad" is before "sportivnyi"?
Like: Young figurist -> 3rd child -> 2nd child -> 1st child -> 2nd sports -> 1st sports -> KMC -> MC ?
2. Is there no 3rd sports grade?
3. What are the age limits in 1-3 childs grade?
4. How can I get to know what grade certain skater is? Fskate.ru provides only names.

boskil said:

1. So chronologically "yunoshetskyi rozriad" is before "sportivnyi"?
Like: Young figurist -> 3rd child -> 2nd child -> 1st child -> 2nd sports -> 1st sports -> KMC -> MC ?

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Yes.
To pretend to child grade skater must successfully perform test for "young figurist". This test includes 3 jumps - 0,5 turn Axel and two differenf 1 turn jumps, one spin on base level, one ChSq.

Young figurist is given by tests, all higher - by competitions. 1st sports grade and lower - by score (and must meet the requrements, for example in FS for 1st sports grade - 2A and combo with 2A, 4 or more different double and triple jumps, all elements for GOE -1 or higher).
KMS and higher - by place (for example KMS - place 1-10 at JrNats or 1-3 at Event of Russian Cup etc., and meet the requrements too).
Two highest titles - MSMK and ZMS (Honored Master of Sports) need only places at Internationals, no requrements.
MSMK - place 7 or higher at Worlds, 6 or higher at Euro etc.
ZMS - medal of Olympics
or gold medal of Worlds
or to win GPF or Euro and have 150 scoring points which are given for medals of Euro, Worlds and GPF.

Skaters may omit some grades. I know girl who newer had 2nd sports grade, she got 1st sports grade after 1st childs grade.
But highest grades and titles (KMS and higher) are given only in order. Radionova was KMS when won JrWorls-2013, and there were two orders of Minister of Sports of the same day - MS and MSMK for her.

boskil said:

2. Is there no 3rd sports grade?

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There is 3rd sports grade.
Programs are the same as 2nd sports grade.
For 2nd sports grade is needed total score 65 for boys and 60 for girls or higher, if requirements are met but score is lower - 3rd grade.

boskil said:

3. What are the age limits in 1-3 childs grade?
4. How can I get to know what grade certain skater is? Fskate.ru provides only names.

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3 and 4 - I don't know.

Thank you very much! :agree:

Interesting fact - of high level female skaters who competed at Nationals of season 2015/2016 there are:
- four Honored Masters of Sports (ZMS) - OLympic Champions Lipnitskaia and Sotnikova, World Champions Tuktamysheva and Medvedeva,
- three Masters of Sports of International Class (MSMK) - Leonova (Worlds Silver Medalist), Radionova (got title by winning JrWorlds, Euro and World Medalist), Pogorilaya (Euro and World Medalist).
- six Masters of Sports (MS) - Tsurskaya, Sotskova, Sakhanovich (won Event of Russian Cup Senior), Artemieva (was in top10 of Nationals and medalist of Russian Cup), Bayanova, Ivankova (they have medals of Russian Cup Events).
- five Candidates to Master of Sports (KMS).

More ZMS than MSMK in Russian Top now.

More MS than KMS at Nationals - because best skaters at most have MS title. In total KMS are much more multiple than MS.

That's because they are winning everything on international stage!

Some of last local competitions of season.

Open Championships of Moskvich sports School, 27-30 Apr 2016
Child Grades, Sports Grades, Junior.
Homepage http://ffkm.ru/competitions/current/667-moskvitch2016
Protocols http://ffkm.ru/images/files/015-16/2016-04-27_Moskvitch/Protokol_Moskvitch2016.pdf

Open Cup of Figure Skating of "Moscow Hockey" clubs, 14-15 May 2016.
Child grades and Sports Grades.
Homepage http://ffkm.ru/12-competitions/680-lkkfso2016
Protocols http://ffkm.ru/images/files/015-16/2016-05-14_LKK_FSO/Protokol_LKK_FSO_may16.pdf

Most interesting are results of girls 1st sports grade.

More info http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sh...oung-Skaters&p=1443159&viewfull=1#post1443159