Entries for 2015 Croatia Cup

Sam-Skwantch · Oct 4, 2015

breathesgelatin said:
I believe you can make substitutions up through the first team leaders meeting at the event. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

I tried to check the current entries to find the list of available substitutes and the link is broken

I can go to the event page and click on other links but the entries link is broken/bad domain?
http://www.isu.org/en/single-and-pa...su-junior-grand-prix-of-figure-skating-zagreb

Invalid Domain

hippomoomin · Oct 5, 2015

It is invalid domain indeed. Maybe ISU received a crazy amount request to change entries in the last minute and has to shut it down for a while :rolleye:

Sam-Skwantch said:
I tried to check the current entries to find the list of available substitutes and the link is broken

I can go to the event page and click on other links but the entries link is broken/bad domain?
http://www.isu.org/en/single-and-pa...su-junior-grand-prix-of-figure-skating-zagreb

NMURA · Oct 5, 2015

Yura Matsuda came back to Japan according to her twitter.
So Higuchi is definitely going there.

chuckm · Oct 5, 2015

If Higuchi wins, she makes the final, and if Honda wins silver they both make the final.

jace93 · Oct 5, 2015

chuckm said:
If Higuchi wins, she makes the final, and if Honda wins silver they both make the final.

Honda would just need to podium to make it to the final...

LisaM · Oct 5, 2015

hippomoomin said:
It is invalid domain indeed. Maybe ISU received a crazy amount request to change entries in the last minute and has to shut it down for a while

It is up again now, and S/A and S/E are both in for Dance

http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent00051641.htm

silverfoxes · Oct 5, 2015

Serafima is out :no:

http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat00028472.htm

Hope she's ok.

Lazukin is also out.

adelia · Oct 5, 2015

Excellent foresight by the Russian Fed. Now they only have one competitor in each singles event.

witcher · Oct 5, 2015

Wow, that's pathetic from RusFed, there is no way country with such ladies "resources" should be lacking substitution for GP event.
It's hard to believe it. :eek:

chuckm · Oct 5, 2015

It makes sense, though, for Russia to not send Lazukin and Sakhanovich to a back-to-back event after their dismal performances in Spain. A tired skater who didn't perform well at the first event is in danger of getting injured at the second.

Lipea · Oct 5, 2015

adelia said:
Excellent foresight by the Russian Fed. Now they only have one competitor in each singles event.

What? Why don't they send someone else then? There are plenty of girls who are in great shape now and age eligible like Lozko or Konstantinova. I'm sure there are also boys who would benefit from the experience of competing there. What's wrong with the Fed? They don't want Alisa to get a spot in final?

sabinfire · Oct 5, 2015

Lipea said:
What? Why don't they send someone else then? There are plenty of girls who are in great shape now and age eligible like Lozko or Konstantinova. I'm sure there are also boys who would benefit from the experience of competing there. What's wrong with the Fed? They don't want Alisa to get a spot in final?

Who are they going to send? Russia has exhausted all their substitutes and has no options.

adelia · Oct 5, 2015

Lipea said:
What? Why don't they send someone else then? There are plenty of girls who are in great shape now and age eligible like Lozko or Konstantinova. I'm sure there are also boys who would benefit from the experience of competing there. What's wrong with the Fed? They don't want Alisa to get a spot in final?

Lozko and Konstantinova were not submitted as subs for Croatia in the first place so they can't replace Sima. Russia's subs list consisted of skaters who have already completed 2 JGPs. It's exceptionally poor planning and narrow mindedness. In the first place Lozko wasn't even invited to the test skate so the Fed never considered the option of giving her JGP.

chuckm · Oct 5, 2015

Russia could have updated their list of substitutes as the JGPs went on but they didn't. It really doesn't matter at this point: if the goal is always to make the final, anyone new they sent to the last event couldn't have done that anyway. Pervushkina could make the final if she won, but Samarin couldn't, so really, why even send him?

silverfoxes · Oct 5, 2015

Samoilov was listed as a sub for Croatia. I know he didn't do amazingly in Spain, but he also didn't totally bomb, so I think he could have used the experience. But maybe he wasn't ready to do another competition back-to-back. I don't really understand why someone like Efimchuk didn't get a chance at all.

chuckm · Oct 5, 2015

Samoilov can jump, but he is no performer and he won't learn that with one more event.

Lipea · Oct 5, 2015

chuckm said:
Russia could have updated their list of substitutes as the JGPs went on but they didn't. It really doesn't matter at this point: if the goal is always to make the final, anyone new they sent to the last event couldn't have done that anyway

Yes, but you omit the main point: if they would have sent someone strong like for ex. Lozko to last JGP it would dramatically increase Fedichkina's chances to get to the final. In fact, considering that Wakaba is not in her best shape, a strong Russian junior lady could be very likely 1st here, or at least beat one of the Japanese girls. Fedichkina showed herself very well, she definitely could be a podium contender in the final. How could they possibly not have subs with the depth of amazing girls they have? I just cannot get over this stupidity.

chuckm · Oct 5, 2015

I find it somewhat amusing that one Russian lady would be expected to go to a competition to ensure that another Russian lady makes the Final.

Sam-Skwantch · Oct 5, 2015

chuckm said:
I find it somewhat amusing that one Russian lady would be expected to go to a competition to ensure that another Russian lady makes the Final.

It is called teamwork :yes:

The Finn · Oct 6, 2015

Lipea said:
Yes, but you omit the main point: if they would have sent someone strong like for ex. Lozko to last JGP it would dramatically increase Fedichkina's chances to get to the final. In fact, considering that Wakaba is not in her best shape, a strong Russian junior lady could be very likely 1st here, or at least beat one of the Japanese girls. Fedichkina showed herself very well, she definitely could be a podium contender in the final. How could they possibly not have subs with the depth of amazing girls they have? I just cannot get over this stupidity.

Yep, the effect of the 2nd Russian girl could have been the same as Mitrofanova had earlier in the season when she beat Sakamoto and by doing so she helped Alisa very significantly. The same thing could have happen at Croatia also.

What really irritates me is the fact that this shortage of substitutes at Croatia was highly obvious at the beginning and already a month ago I pointed it out that there is a real chance this could happen.

Entries for 2015 Croatia Cup

Sam-Skwantch

“I solemnly swear I’m up to no good”

hippomoomin

NMURA

chuckm

jace93

LisaM

silverfoxes

adelia

witcher

Match Penalty

chuckm

Lipea

sabinfire

Doing the needful

adelia

chuckm

silverfoxes

chuckm

Lipea

chuckm

Sam-Skwantch

“I solemnly swear I’m up to no good”

The Finn

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