2016 Youth Olympics Mixed NOC team event

dorispulaski · Feb 13, 2016

Detailed Results
http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1516/yog2016/

What time is it in Lillehammer?
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/norway/lillehammer

Makeup of the teams, based on skaters' order of finish in the individual events:
http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1516/yog2016/TeamEntries.pdf

Schedule. (UTC +1)

February 20, 2016
	14:00:00	Mixed NOC Team	Free Dance - Ice Dance
	15:35:00	Mixed NOC Team	Free Skating - Pairs
	17:10:00	Mixed NOC Team	Free Skating - Ladies
	18:40:00	Mixed NOC Team	Free Skating - Men

TEAMS

1Team Desire
Men RUS ALIEV Dmitri
Ladies CHN LI Xiangning
Pairs USA ROSE Sarah / GOODPASTER Joseph
Ice Dance RUS SKOPTCOVA A / ALESHIN K

2Team Motivation
Men MAS CHEW Kai Xiang
Ladies KOR BYUN Ji Hyun
Pairs RUS BORISOVA Ekaterina / SOPOT Dmitry
Ice DanceLTUDAMULEVICIUTE G / KIZALA D

3Team Future
Men UKR SHMURATKO Ivan
Ladies LAT NIKITINA Diana
Pairs CZE DUSKOVA Anna / BIDAR Martin
Ice Dance FRA WAGRET Julia / COUYRAS Mathieu

4Team Discovery
Men LAT VASILJEVS Deniss
Ladies HUN MEDGYESI Fruzsina
Pairs CHN GAO Yumeng / LI Bowen
Ice Dance CAN LAJOIE Marjorie / LAGHA Zachary

5Team Determination
Men FRA. SIAO HIM FA Adam
Ladies JPN SAKAMOTO Kaori
Pairs RUS USTIMKINA Alina / VOLODIN Nikita
Ice Dance ITA RIGHI Francesca / PAPETTI Pietro

6Team Focus
Men FIN LANKILA Lauri
Ladies JPN SHIRAIWA Yuna
Pairs CHN ZHAO Ying / XIE Zhong
Ice Dance UKR GOLUBTSOVA Maria / BELOBROV Kirill

7Team Courage
Men CAN SADOVSKY Roman
Ladies NOR BENJAMINSEN Juni Marie
Pairs ITA CALDARA Irma / CAPUTO Edoardo
Ice Dance RUS SHPILEVAYA A / SMIRNOV G

8Team Hope
Men ITA BANNISTER Adrien
Ladies ARM GALUSTYAN Anastasia
Pairs KOR KIM Su Yeon / KIM Hyungtae
Ice Dance BLR KALEHANAVA E / PALKHOUSKI

CaroLiza_fan · Feb 13, 2016

A note for those that are playing the Junior ISU Championships Predictions Game

The members of the teams will not be announced until after the individual competitions are finished, because the make-up of the teams is based on the results of the individual competitions.

Since there will be at most 2 full days between the announcement of the teams and the team competitions being held, there will not be much time to research predictions (especially since 4 Continents will be on at the same time).

Consequently, the YOG Team Trophy will be a non-scoring round of the Junior Predictions Game.

There will be a separate Predictions Thread for the YOG Team Trophy, but there is no point creating the thread until after the individual competitions are finished.

So, I hope this cllarifies things.

CaroLiza_fan

patinage_adulte · Feb 15, 2016

After Pairs and Men results we know first names for Team Event

Team Desire
Men Aliev RUS
Ladies place 12
Pairs Rose / Goodpaster USA
Ice Dance place 3

Team Motivation
Men Chew MAS
Ladies place 7
Pairs Borisova / Sopot RUS
Ice Dance place 9

Team Future
Men Shmuratko UKR
Ladies place 5
Pairs Duskova / Bidar CZE
Ice Dance place 8

Team Discovery
Men Vasiljevs LAT
Ladies place 14
Pairs Gao / Li CHN
Ice Dance place 4

Team Determination
Men Siao Him Fa FRA
Ladies place 6
Pairs Ustimkina / Volodin RUS
Ice Dance place 12

Team Focus
Men Lankila FIN
Ladies place 4
Pairs Zhao / Xie CHN
Ice Dance place 7

Team Courage
Men Sadovsky CAN
Ladies place 15
Pairs Caldara / Caputo ITA
Ice Dance place 1

Team Hope
Men Bannister ITA
Ladies place 10
Pairs Kim / Kim KOR
Ice Dance place 6

snowflake · Feb 15, 2016

Wondering: What does NOC stand for?

ice coverage · Feb 15, 2016

snowflake said:
Wondering: What does NOC stand for?

National Olympic Committee

silverfoxes · Feb 15, 2016

So no ladies' medalists at all, but 14th and 15th place are invited? Color me confused...this seems so random (I know there's an explanation of the selection process somewhere here, but it still seems bizarre). Though at least if Maria can't make up her deficit in the FS, she can hopefully redeem herself here.

puremagic · Feb 15, 2016

I'm glad that we have NOC to be able to get a medal to those skaters, who have no chance to do it in solitary competitions.

snowflake · Feb 15, 2016

Confusing indeed :scratch2:

ice coverage · Feb 15, 2016

silverfoxes said:
So no ladies' medalists at all, but 14th and 15th place are invited? Color me confused...this seems so random (I know there's an explanation of the selection process somewhere here, but it still seems bizarre). Though at least if Maria can't make up her deficit in the FS, she can hopefully redeem herself here.

There is a certain structure that is the basis for what appears to be madness -- but what I don't like is that the teams inherently are structured to be unequal in strength.

Based on placements in the individual disciplines, skaters from each discipline are divided into three groups, with Group 1 having the top placements, and Group 3 having the bottom placements.

Team 1 = Group 1 man + Group 3 lady + Group 2 pair + Group 1 dancers.

Team 8 = Group 2 man + Group 2 lady + Group 3 pair + Group 2 dancers.

How is that fair???

How the teams are structured is explained on page 3 of this document:

http://www.isu.org/media/177891/2015-09-15-wyog-2016-qs-isu-figure_skating-en.pdf

blackey · Feb 15, 2016

competitors for NOC are random selected(in a fair way so that each team has similar capability).

And I just don't the point of this ....

ice coverage · Feb 15, 2016

blackey said:
competitors for NOC are random selected(in a fair way so that each team has similar capability).

And I just don't the point of this ....

Well ... not necessarily "fair" and "similar" -- unless one is willing to stretch the definitions of those words.

Per the example that I gave above, the official rules specify that the man, pair, and dance couple on Team 1 all will have higher YOG placements than their counterparts on Team 8. (Only the lady on Team 1 will have a lower YOG placement than her counterpart on Team 8.)

To me, that kind of built-in imbalance is not very "fair" or "similar."

ETA, a hypothetical draw that would be within the realm of possibility, according to the rules:

Team 1: 1st place man + 12th place lady + 4th place pair +1st place dance couple

Team 8: 11th place man + 11th place lady + 10th place pair + 8th place dance couple

ETA, the real draw indeed resulted in teams of dissimilar strengths:

Team 1: Aliev (3rd place man) + 12th place lady + Rose/ Goodpaster (6th place pair) + 3rd place dance couple

Team 8: Bannister (9th place man) + 10th place lady + Kim/Kim (8th place pair) + 6th place dance couple

The Finn · Feb 16, 2016

Teams so far.

http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1516/yog2016/TeamEntries.pdf

Aliev and Skoptcova/Aleshin are on the same team. Not bad but they will also have the 12th girl at the ladies competition.

The Finn · Feb 16, 2016

By the way, it there an error on the list because according to the list there will be no ladies medalist at the team event!!! How could that be?? If that is the case then there are some really ridiculous rules involve.

katha · Feb 16, 2016

None of this makes any sense? :scratch2:

They really should have a re-think of the whole structure here, because in its current form it's kinda ridiculous.

ice coverage · Feb 16, 2016

The Finn said:
By the way, it there an error on the list because according to the list there will be no ladies medalist at the team event!!! How could that be?? If that is the case then there are some really ridiculous rules involve.

I don't think it is an error.

The rules designate that only two ladies out of the top five will be assigned to teams in the mixed event.

ETA, to elaborate:

Group 1 ladies are the top five ladies.
Per the rules, only Team 3 and Team 6 get Group 1 ladies.

The Finn · Feb 16, 2016

golden411icecoverage said:
I don't think it is an error.

The rules designate that only two ladies out of the top five will be assigned to teams in the mixed event.

ETA, to elaborate:

Group 1 ladies are the top five ladies.
Per the rules, only Team 3 and Team 6 get Group 1 ladies.

This is totally ******** BS rules. Men got 3 skaters from TOP 5 but the ladies only got 2 skaters from TOP 5. That is totally ridiculous.

The Finn · Feb 16, 2016

The Finn said:
Teams so far.

http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1516/yog2016/TeamEntries.pdf

Aliev and Skoptcova/Aleshin are on the same team. Not bad but they will also have the 12th girl at the ladies competition.

The link has been updated. My favourite is Team Desire.

I still haven't got over the fact that neither Polina nor Masha will compete here.

puremagic · Feb 16, 2016

The Finn said:
Men got 3 skaters from TOP 5 but the ladies only got 2 skaters from TOP 5. That is totally ridiculous.

it's sad

puremagic · Feb 16, 2016

The Finn said:
The link has been updated. My favourite is Team Desire.

I still haven't got over the fact that neither Polina nor Masha will compete here.

Team 1, 3, 6 and 7 looking not bad.

Team 1

ALIEV Dmitri RUS Men
LI Xiangning CHN Ladies
ROSE Sarah / GOODPASTER Joseph USA Pairs
SKOPTCOVA A / ALESHIN K RUS Ice Dance
______________________

Team 3

SHMURATKO Ivan UKR Men
NIKITINA Diana LAT Ladies
DUSKOVA Anna / BIDAR Martin CZE Pairs
WAGRET Julia / COUYRAS Mathieu FRA Ice Dance
______________________

Team 6

LANKILA Lauri FIN Men
SHIRAIWA Yuna JPN Ladies
ZHAO Ying / XIE Zhong CHN Pairs
GOLUBTSOVA Maria / BELOBROV Kirill UKR Ice Dance (btw, this couple have good performance)
______________________

Team 7

SADOVSKY Roman CAN Men
BENJAMINSEN Juni Marie NOR Ladies
CALDARA Irma / CAPUTO Edoardo ITA Pairs
SHPILEVAYA A / SMIRNOV G RUS Ice Dance

ice coverage · Feb 16, 2016

puremagic said:
Team 1, 3 and 7 looking not bad.

Team 1

ALIEV Dmitri RUS Men
LI Xiangning CHN Ladies
ROSE Sarah / GOODPASTER Joseph USA Pairs
SKOPTCOVA A / ALESHIN K RUS Ice Dance
______________________

Team 3

SHMURATKO Ivan UKR Men
NIKITINA Diana LAT Ladies
DUSKOVA Anna / BIDAR Martin CZE Pairs
WAGRET Julia / COUYRAS Mathieu FRA Ice Dance
______________________

Team 7

SADOVSKY Roman CAN Men
BENJAMINSEN Juni Marie NOR Ladies
CALDARA Irma / CAPUTO Edoardo ITA Pairs
SHPILEVAYA A / SMIRNOV G RUS Ice Dance

Because the rules are not even-handed, it is not surprising that Teams 1, 3, and 7 would look the most promising.

The rules specify that those teams each would be allotted two Group 1 entries:

For Team 1, the man and dance couple
For Team 3, the lady and pair
For Team 7, the man and dance couple

And that Teams 2, 4, 5, and 6 each would be allotted only one Group 1 entry.

And that Team 8 would be allotted zero Group 1 entries.

I'm rooting for Team 8 :yes:.

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