People here keep saying Ten is carefree about safety. Is it really the case? I doubt Ten wanna get into any accident to get hurt or hurt others. He merely tries to downplay the whole thing. Hanyu seems quite aggressive in his reaction. That could rub Ten the wrong way and hence the response. I thought the no biggie comment sounds more annoyed than carefree.
29th Practice incident discussion
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Hanyu is very careful when other skater's run-through, OFF COURSE. This short video explains it.
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/h...16/12318706_1651894428401939_2025661806_n.mp4
And very careful always.
http://i.imgur.com/vMNCtu1.gif
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/h...16/12318706_1651894428401939_2025661806_n.mp4
And very careful always.
http://i.imgur.com/vMNCtu1.gif
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Nice try. 故意 means nothing more or less than intentional. Do you think you're only Japanese Speaker in this thread?
Nice try what? I just offered my interpretation of what I think may be intentional refers to when he uses that word, more so here not to repeat it:
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sh...t-discussion&p=1401636&viewfull=1#post1401636
If I'm wrong, I have no problem saying I'm wrong.
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thank you for your insightful contribution to the conversation...
To make it short :
(Two) men under pressure + frightening situation + media loving gossip = a little incident became a big deal out of proportion...
That said, it certainly is important to think about the best way to hold practice session, to make it safe and efficient for every skater
(Two) men under pressure + frightening situation + media loving gossip = a little incident became a big deal out of proportion...
That said, it certainly is important to think about the best way to hold practice session, to make it safe and efficient for every skater
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Seeing is believing, that's what they say.
His trauma about 14coc made him move like these,maybe? But he is entitled to bark at others because of his trauma. Sometimes Universe is like that. I know. I know.
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Fanwars :eeking:
Seeing is believing, that's what they say.
His trauma about 14coc made him move like these,maybe? But he is entitled to bark at others because of his trauma. Sometimes Universe is like that. I know. I know.
No, but he is entitled to when it's his music playing, he has right of way and he's already been cut of a couple of times before by the same skater.
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Seeing is believing, that's what they say.
His trauma about 14coc made him move like these,maybe? But he is entitled to bark at others because of his trauma. Sometimes Universe is like that. I know. I know.
It's clear to me that you have your image of Yuzuru and I have mine so I'll leave it at that.
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My thoughts on [unnecessarily] reducing the number of single skaters (men only?) on practice sessions:
- The top men and women in the world are more than capable to 'safely' practice with 5 others on the ice with them (i.e. 6 skaters total).
- If the top men and women did not have this ability, they would have long ago been knocked out of the sport (literally) with multiple injuries from collisions.
- Keep in mind, most Senior level skaters share regular practice ice with 15-20+ other skaters; and many of those sessions include a mix of Novice, Junior & Senior level skaters .
@EdgeCall - I know you were looking at the actual competition warm-up groups in the case above. But, if you also set the maximum number of (singles) skaters on each practice session at 4 skaters, then you would need to shorten the length of each practice session considerably in order to fit within the overall competition schedule...
CURRENT PRACTICE SESSIONS (40 min. sessions)
(2 groups x 6 skaters = 12 skaters)
- 40 min - 6 skaters
- 40 min - 6 skaters
- 10 min - ice resurfacing
90 minutes
If we try to squeeze 3 groups (of 4 skaters) within the same 90 minute time allotment:
ADDING 1 GROUP (26½ min. session)
(3 groups x 4 skaters = 12 skaters)
- 26½ min - 4 skaters
- 26½ min - 4 skaters
- 26½ min - 4 skaters
- 10 min - ice resurfacing
89½ minutes
∆ = -½ minute
As 26½ minutes is an impractical length of time to work with, you can either round the time down (to 25 min) or up (to 30 min):
ADDING 1 GROUP (25 min. sessions)
(3 groups x 4 skaters = 12 skaters)
- 25 min - 4 skaters
- 25 min - 4 skaters
- 25 min - 4 skaters
- 10 min - ice resurfacing
85 minutes
∆ = -5 minutes
ADDING 1 GROUP (30 min. sessions)
(3 groups x 4 skaters = 12 skaters)
- 30 min - 4 skaters
- 30 min - 4 skaters
- 30 min - 4 skaters
- 10 min - ice resurfacing
100 minutes
∆ = +10 minutes
I have NO idea what sort of impact this would have on the overall competition schedule. But, as it concerns the skaters, here are some things to consider...
- How much earlier in the morning (or later at night) would practice sessions need to start/finish to fit everything in?
- What is the effect of shortening (from 40 to 25 minutes) perhaps the ONLY practice session a skater might have for that day?
- For single practice days, is 25 minutes sufficient?
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I'm actually the most concerned about the safety of top Pairs group practice, with double the number of skaters and all those big throws.
Normally, if you feel entitled to bark at others when your music is playing, you will be out of their way when their music is playing.
But seemingly somebody doesn't think so...
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/h...16/12318706_1651894428401939_2025661806_n.mp4
Oops. He changed so radically between 15GPF and 16WC. Soooorry for forgetting about that:agree:
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That is Patrick's music and he clearly avoided Patrick.
He gets out of Patrick's way in that clip. What are you even talking about?
You think he properly avoided Patrick in the situation? I don't want you to drive any car.
This time no sarcasm. Driving needs aptitude. Don't run over me.
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And you too. Don't drive any car.
Isn't it the same number of skaters because they train in session of 3 teams? I skipped through the schedule a few days ago and i think I remember seeing a group of only Russian Teams, meaning the 3 teams.
I agree with those that take a broader view of the incident. It is not about a cat fight between top skaters. It is about a safety and a right-of-way issue between two skaters. It takes 2 hands to clap. Both parties must be on the look out to avoid accidents, and occasionally if one fails to look out it is still OK. BUT, when a skate has a runthrough he/she cannot be expected to be on the lookout for other skaters, therefore it is the onus of the other skaters to look out for the skater whose music is on. Hence the "courtesy" rule that they have right of way.
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