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That and maybe the rotational lift? You can see she tried to open her arms, but the dress started to slip again and she had to hold on to Dima.
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That and maybe the rotational lift? You can see she tried to open her arms, but the dress started to slip again and she had to hold on to Dima.
Maybe, but it still was a difficult position and will be counted for level. Maybe it was painful for her, though?
Edit: maybe something also happened during Diagonal Step Sequence?
It was a good skate actually, their best yet. At least while stream worked, and there wasn't any big mistakes apart the one lost level on that spin.
Yeah, I think both the spin and the lift threw them off a little. Maybe they were expecting a ~perfect~ performance, but it is true that this is their best outing yet :agree2:
I would prefer them to win with not a perfect performance. It'll make them work harder! :hap93:
Edit: they did mistakes in both dances actually. It's for the best
And I'm glad that Katia skated without that knee support from Samara.
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Maybe, but it still was a difficult position and will be counted for level. Maybe it was painful for her, though?
Edit: maybe something also happened during Diagonal Step Sequence?
It could be either or both, or perhaps all the little mistakes combined. They went to skate before Chock and Bates and they knew they would have to do it perfectly if they wanted to win, and isn't this their first international win since 2013? I guess they wanted the medal, and a performance to be proud of. It could be a lot of things - we already saw how they reacted to the fall in Samara, so...
Yes, it is
Wow, that was a long time. And despite the mistakes I still think they should be proud. I wonder if we'll see the whole dance, though... I doubt it now
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Yes, it is
I wonder if we'll see the whole dance, though... I doubt it now
Maybe some fans were filming?
The protocols: http://www.kraso.sk/wp-content/uplo...20160929_mon/CSSVK2016_IceDance_FD_Scores.pdf
Hmmm... looks like the spin mistake was the only one! And they got pretty good GOE for almost all of their elements.
And Chock/Bates actually got level 2 on twizzles? Hmmm... I need to rewatch it. I though it wouldn't be counted at all
Hmmm... looks like the spin mistake was the only one! And they got pretty good GOE for almost all of their elements.
And Chock/Bates actually got level 2 on twizzles? Hmmm... I need to rewatch it. I though it wouldn't be counted at all
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Oh, and I actually saw the performances from the videos HERE, not the stream
Yeah, but the video of Bobrova/Soloviev lack almost 50 s of their peformance. The part when stream died.
Yeah, sadly the videos are not perfectly intact due to the stream :/ I'll be happy with them though, at least until (hopefully) we' get full videos from somewhere else.
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Chock/Bates have a lot of work to do for that FD. Technical mistakes are one thing, but that program is one-note and incoherent. Hubbell/Donohue, Hawayek/Baker, and the Parsons (even though they're juniors) have much better free dances this season out of the Americans I've seen so far. With Virtue/Moir coming back strong, the Igor style of packing in choreography and athleticism without much thought into interpreting a theme or choreographing any actual dancing (outside Evan lifting Madison to a beat just to fill up time or them raising their arms in the air or having her caress his face 50 times) to go with the music is looking outdated. Yes, I know Chris Dean co-choreographed this, but the way the choreography fights against the music outside of the opening and flourishes in the lifts is pure Igor.
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There's nothing wrong with C/B's FD. What they need to do is to skate it confidently and with conviction. This FD is a contemporary dance (interpretative dancing, if you will) on ice. Their elemental organic movements figuratively express the spirit ... intent ... issues that the dance meant or wanted to convey subliminally. I'm glad they're not just mindlessly creating movements or forms that suit the rhythm (hate to say but Shib's ColdPlay FD was exactly that - beautiful but the movements had nothing to do with theme of the music though occasionally hit the right note). Ever heard of Martha Graham? Of course, you have. Her dancing style is rooted in the innate ability of the body to express something through movements. Look at C/B's expressive hands, arms ... their movements conveying 'pressures' ... stresses. I guess I can relate because of my dancing background (performed creative modern dances in my youth). Anyway, what happened today to them is nothing new ... not unexpected: lost their concentration, could also be fatigue (modern dancing could be emotionally and physically grueling ... draining). It's a good thing they're experiencing these 'things' now - they will learn to handle these better.
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Look at the judging panel, not exactly US friendly
They lost technical points - understandable (Evan's twizzle error is outrageously glaring and distracting). What's surprising is their PCS. Comparatively, it is just a point or so below the winners (C/B's 53.34 to B/S - 54.54) indicating that in terms of showmanship, they delivered what they intended to present or convey. Also, you can sense they seemed to be just going through the motions ... the flow - visibly lacked concentration (Evan seemed distracted).
But I'd also say that the judging panel was extremely generous to B/S: their performance lacked the fire ... incohesive, at best: I don't know what Zhulin is trying to convey in this FD. Normally, his choreography is nuanced but this borders on bizarre ....
Speaking of choreographic styles_ Balanchine choreographic style - beautiful movements and forms but plotless; Graham's - thematic and unconventional. Both totally acceptable as long as the entertainment value outweighs the deficits.
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