2017 Russian Cup Final - Senior Ladies FS

puremagic · Feb 14, 2017

Final Cup of Russia - Rostelecom 2016-2017
Saransk, Russia

Friday, February 16, 2017
15:15 PM UTC +3

Result Page

Starting Order

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Polina Makarova 43.97
2 Anastasia TITOVA 33.67
3 Larissa Urusovo 43.15
4 Xenia Sayfutdinova 36.52
5 María Kutepov 41.27

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Elizabeth Fil'kin 51.23
7 Anastasia Kolomiets 58.54
8 Serafima Sakhanovich 58.97
9 Stanislav KONSTANTINOVA 51.29
10 Angelina Kalnitskaya 47.63

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Valery Mikhailov 62.00
12 Alena Leonova 60.41
13 Elizabeth Tuktamysheva 63.35
14 Natalia OGORELTSEVA 64.65
15 Alice Fedichkin 64.28
16 Pauline TSURSKAYA 73.76

Videos will appear here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheFSRussia/videos

starla16 · Feb 17, 2017

Konstantinova withdrew ???

MsLiinaLii · Feb 17, 2017

starla16 said:
Konstantinova withdrew ???

Yes, due to illness.

Many spectators as well as Mihhail Sharov (photographer) say that yesterday during warm-up you could clearly see she was sick and was coughing badly...

starla16 · Feb 17, 2017

MsLiinaLii said:
Yes, due to illness.

Many spectators as well as Mihhail Sharov (photographer) say that yesterday during warm-up you could clearly see she was sick and was coughing badly...

so they removed her junior worlds too ?

RadioFan · Feb 17, 2017

starla16 said:
so they removed her junior worlds too ?

I see ... someone tries to trigger again, just to continue his Stasy-bashing.

starla16 · Feb 17, 2017

Tuk at 134.76 FS, is that a good national score ?

starla16 · Feb 17, 2017

Tsursakaya at 135.23 total 208.99

have to see her FS

Mirunna · Feb 17, 2017

starla16 said:
Tuk at 134.76 FS, is that a good national score ?

It's more relevant to look at the TES score; 65 is solid but not top podium material. For comparison references, Medvedeva got around 74 at Europeans. So it appears that it was a solid performance, with no falls, but I suspect some mistakes here in there, maybe a pop/ a hand down or two. 69 PCS is pretty high but decent for a national competition. TES 67 for Polina is also a bit low

EDIT: very good jumps for Liza, everything looked secure and well done except popping the 3F.

starla16 · Feb 17, 2017

Mirunna said:
It's more relevant to look at the TES score; 65 is solid but not top podium material. For comparison references, Medvedeva got around 74 at Europeans. So it appears that it was a solid performance, with no falls, but I suspect some mistakes here in there, maybe a pop/ a hand down or two. 69 PCS is pretty high but decent for a national competition. TES 67 for Polina is also a bit low

EDIT: very good jumps for Liza, everything looked secure and well done except popping the 3F.

I think Polina T got an underrotation but her jumps were solid too !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOP2j8TTfqY
Tsurskaya is very sublime, pre CoP type skater with secure jumps.

Mirunna · Feb 17, 2017

starla16 said:
I think Polina T got an underrotation but her jumps were solid too !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOP2j8TTfqY
Tsurskaya is very sublime, pre CoP type skater with secure jumps.

Polina is growing into a lovely skater, I can't believe how different she is as a skater compared to last season. I can't wait to see her on the Sr circuit

starla16 · Feb 17, 2017

Mirunna said:
Polina is growing into a lovely skater, I can't believe how different she is as a skater compared to last season. I can't wait to see her on the Sr circuit

Tsurskaya has one of the best skating skills amongst russian girls and her speed improved.
she is up there with Pogorilaya, Gubanova, Sotnikova in skating skills.

largeman · Feb 17, 2017

starla16 said:
I think Polina T got an underrotation but her jumps were solid too !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOP2j8TTfqY
Tsurskaya is very sublime, pre CoP type skater with secure jumps.

It's impressive that she popped her 3S into a 2S, but then replaced her 2A with a 3S later.

Sam-Skwantch · Feb 17, 2017

starla16 said:
I think Polina T got an underrotation but her jumps were solid too !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOP2j8TTfqY
Tsurskaya is very sublime, pre CoP type skater with secure jumps.

I've never really been able to get into her skating. I feel like it lacks personality or something and I find myself just watching elements being done well but the programs don't really have a character or feel that I can identify. She's really solid though and earns her points but it just doesn't do anything for me sadly .....at least not yet. I'm still holding out hope that she'll change my opinion as she becomes a senior.

She's sort of like a good jumping version of Masha but lacks the presentation. It's just my opinion of course.

RadioFan · Feb 17, 2017

Sam-Skwantch said:
I've never really been able to get into her skating. I feel like it lacks personality or something and I find myself just watching elements being done well but the programs don't really have a character or feel that I can identify. She's really solid though and earns her points but it just doesn't do anything for me sadly .....at least not yet. I'm still holding out hope that she'll change my opinion as she becomes a senior.

It is Eteri's group. They skate like robots without emotions. And of course, the choreography is horrible boring and the costumes are re-use several times. (See Zagi's DonQuihote-balerina-thing)

EdgeCall · Feb 17, 2017

RadioFan said:
It is Eteri's group. They skate like robots without emotions. And of course, the choreography is horrible boring and the costumes are re-use several times. (See Zagi's DonQuihote-balerina-thing)

I'm not a fan of the Tutberidze school, but I have never seen them skate "like robots without emotions" at all. They rather tend to present the emotional content of their programs in an unsophisticated "in your face" way. With a single exception:Julia. She always appears like a skating enigma.

largeman · Feb 17, 2017

Sam-Skwantch said:
I've never really been able to get into her skating. I feel like it lacks personality or something and I find myself just watching elements being done well but the programs don't really have a character or feel that I can identify. She's really solid though and earns her points but it just doesn't do anything for me sadly .....at least not yet. I'm still holding out hope that she'll change my opinion as she becomes a senior.

Last season Polina wowed me with her 3Lz-3T. But this year she wows me with everything she does. The footwork sequence in the SP is so smooth, so genius, so aesthetically pleasing, I can literally watch it again and again for an hour.
There are things I think could be improved, such as her 3F which is still not that stable. And I could do without her biellmann spin. But on the whole she really just "does it" for me :laugh:

RadioFan · Feb 17, 2017

EdgeCall said:
I'm not a fan of the Tutberidze school, but I have never seen them skate "like robots without emotions" at all. They rather tend to present the emotional content of their programs in an unsophisticated "in your face" way. With a single exception:Julia. She always appears like a skating enigma.

The only emotional content they deliver is to lull you in sleep.

EdgeCall · Feb 17, 2017

RadioFan said:
The only emotional content they deliver is to lull me in sleep.

Fixed that for you. And it doesn't seem to be true either since you appear quite agitated.

RadioFan · Feb 17, 2017

EdgeCall said:
Fixed that for you. And it doesn't seem to be true either since you appear quite agitated.

i simply didnt watched it.

madison · Feb 17, 2017

Sam-Skwantch said:
I've never really been able to get into her skating. I feel like it lacks personality or something and I find myself just watching elements being done well but the programs don't really have a character or feel that I can identify. She's really solid though and earns her points but it just doesn't do anything for me sadly .....at least not yet. I'm still holding out hope that she'll change my opinion as she becomes a senior.

She's sort of like a good jumping version of Masha but lacks the presentation. It's just my opinion of course.

I feel the same

I don't see authentic emotion in her skating :sad21:

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