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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWiO_HPpqWI

    I'm sorry I couldn't handle my laugh watching this

    But after 1:30 that was a pretty decent skate, what a comeback!

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    What about Ksenia AHANTYEVA / Valery KOLESOV? They were very bad at JGP stage. And now they got 108.64 (55.64+54.00) for the free program. How is that possible? Or it was just like Mishina/Mirzoev's skate in Colorado Springs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by puremagic View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWiO_HPpqWI

    I'm sorry I couldn't handle my laugh watching this

    But after 1:30 that was a pretty decent skate, what a comeback!
    I laughed too after a fall on their twist, it was so stupid OMG. A/K is progressing what is surprising there? Also other teams and newbies have shown progress there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana05 View Post
    I laughed too after a fall on their twist, it was so stupid OMG. A/K is progressing what is surprising there? Also other teams and newbies have shown progress there
    I am not sure if it is progressing. Two years now they do very badly outside Russia and very well inside Russia. It seems to me that the federation has always been very generous with their GOE and PCS in comparison with some other pairs. I am not sure if the federation is taking into consideration their ‘potential’ rather than what they put on the ice, or if there is some politicking...

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    Oh, new conspiracy theory from hanca about Russian coaches and federation... Bla-bla-bla. First, it was about that coach of Alisa Efimova has killed her jumps (and Ilushechkinas) after that both girls have landed their triples in competions. Eteri is bad as coach.. Last year A/K scored 140.18 at 1st cup, 118.54 at 2nd cup while at JGP they got 137.35
    They were 5th and 9th and got small PCS and GOES. I see in them potential and they already showed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana05 View Post
    Oh, new conspiracy theory from hanca about Russian coaches and federation... Bla-bla-bla. First, it was about that coach of Alisa Efimova has killed her jumps (and Ilushechkinas) after that both girls have landed their triples in competions. Eteri is bad as coach.. Last year A/K scored 140.18 at 1st cup, 118.54 at 2nd cup while at JGP they got 137.35
    They were 5th and 9th and got small PCS and GOES. I see in them potential and they already showed it
    Well, I suggest before you start smearing other users of this forum, maybe you could actually follow skating for a while and look into things a bit more objectively, rather than naively believing that every coach must be brilliant because they managed to achieve short term success. It is not a conspiracy, but getting results doesn't automatically mean that the coach is morally great.

    Regarding Pavlova, the ex-coach of Efimova-Korovin and before than Antipova and Iliuschechkina, a lot has been posted on the internet a few years ago. If you really, really believe that it is all lies... I wouldn't blame a coach for having a student with anorexia, but it is interesting when it is actually two students, one after the other. It didn't come out of nowhere, so I am not going to be pretending that everything must be all rosy with Pavlova's coaching and it is the girls' fault that they got ill.
    http://www.sovsport.ru/others/figure...ee-k-anoreksii
    I am not surprised that Efimova lost jumps which she had before if Pavlova behaved to her the same as to the previous students. Hopefully with a new coach it will come back. We will see how long Pavlova's current students will last, but I can't see any of them having long-term successful senior career while staying with Pavlova. As I said, she is great with a short term success at junior level, but she hasn't achieved much in seniors in the last ten or more years.

    Regarding Tutberidze, I am not claiming that she is a bad coach. I am just pointing out that she has two sides, as anyone else. She can get the results, but she also gets rid of students that stop performing from any reason. And the reason can be even injury. Shelepen, Pitkeev, Voronov, Lipnitskaya... Until this season she hasn't had more than two students in each category, and it was relatively easy to manage the competitiveness within her group. This season it is interesting to see her having 3 seniors and 4 juniors competing internationally, and in two years time it is likely that those 4 juniors (five if we count also Scherbakova), so let's see how she will manage then. My guess is that she will gets rid of the 'weakest links', the least reliable ones. Which will prove my point.

    Regarding A/K, well they are the only pair who have now two seasons failed at JGP and yet they are still a part of the national team. Let's see the next year, but I don't expect much from them long term. Maybe I am wrong, but I am not saying much different than you can read at several Russian forums... Feel free to disagree. Time will show.

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    Just checked the scores after the short program at JGPF, GPF and Zagreb. Ugh. Enjoying the show, hanca?

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    Grand Prix Final
    Tarasova/Morozov 78.83 2
    Stolbova/Klimov 73.15 4

    Junior Grand Prix Final
    Panfilova/Rylov 60.81 1
    Pavliuchenko/Khodykin 59.51 3
    Poluianova/Sopot 57.28 5
    Boikova/Kozlovskii 55.92 6

    50th Golden Spin of Zagreb
    Junior Pairs
    Mishina/Galiamov 59.06 1
    Zhuk/Britkov 51.52 2
    Pavlova/Parkman 48.50 3

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    Ugh. What a shameful free scores from Elizaveta ZHUK / Egor BRITKOV and Elena PAVLOVA / Daniil PARKMAN:

    3 Elizaveta ZHUK / Egor BRITKOV RUS 73.44 36.24 39.20 5.33 4.83 4.67 5.00 4.67 2.00 #4
    4 Elena PAVLOVA / Daniil PARKMAN RUS 65.48 31.87 37.61 5.00 4.67 4.25 4.92 4.67 4.00 #2

    Lena and Parkman just lost to Czech team, in competition between four pairs.

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    JGPF 2017

    1. Ekaterina ALEXANDROVSKAYA / Harley WINDSOR 173.85
    2. Apollinariia PANFILOVA / Dmitry RYLOV 173.01
    3. Daria PAVLIUCHENKO / Denis KHODYKIN 172.94
    4. Yumeng GAO / Zhong XIE 165.03
    5. Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKII 160.80
    6. Anastasia POLUIANOVA / Dmitry SOPOT 160.47
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    Well, not so bad as I thought. But still wondering why that school of Borisova, Gubanova, Poluianova, and now Panfilova, can't teach them to jump triples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puremagic View Post
    Ugh. What a shameful free scores from Elizaveta ZHUK / Egor BRITKOV and Elena PAVLOVA / Daniil PARKMAN:

    3 Elizaveta ZHUK / Egor BRITKOV RUS 73.44 36.24 39.20 5.33 4.83 4.67 5.00 4.67 2.00 #4
    4 Elena PAVLOVA / Daniil PARKMAN RUS 65.48 31.87 37.61 5.00 4.67 4.25 4.92 4.67 4.00 #2

    Lena and Parkman just lost to Czech team, in competition between four pairs.
    Nothing shameful in their scores: Zhuk/Britkov competed only 2 times without 2nd Cup of Russia this year maybe becuse of injury and they got silverwith 10 points ahead of 3rd team. It's the 1st year torgether for Pavlova/Parkman and 1st as a pair skater for Elena. They used the Golden Spin for preaparing for the next season.

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