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Thread: 2017-18 State of U.S. Ladies Skating

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    There is also an exhibition from the same event with Mirai. Why isn't she doing this?

    https://youtu.be/V6I1MWpVHaQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by labgoat View Post
    There is also an exhibition from the same event with Mirai. Why isn't she doing this?

    https://youtu.be/V6I1MWpVHaQ
    Was that a fully rotated 3A at an exhibiton???? WHAT A BOSS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Ice View Post
    Was that a fully rotated 3A at an exhibiton???? WHAT A BOSS!
    I know - a triple axel and some sass. Please turn this into a short program - think of the pcs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by labgoat View Post
    Just spent some time on YouTube and came across an exhibition to LaLaLand by Polina. Why isn't she using this music it is charming. She has the dance and skating skills to really make it swing.

    https://youtu.be/HPob7YZW-pI
    This skate makes her look much more in shape and more lively than the plodding of the current sp and fs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labgoat View Post
    This skate makes her look much more in shape and more lively than the plodding of the current sp and fs.
    I agree...Wow!! See, she still has it, she's just got to keep herself together under pressure and she'll be ok. That was a great clip, Thank You!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrrice View Post
    I agree...Wow!! See, she still has it, she's just got to keep herself together under pressure and she'll be ok. That was a great clip, Thank You!!!
    You're welcome. I think she has outgrown the current programs. I wish she had time to change them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leafygreens View Post
    Why do people say you can't compare scores across competitions? The ISU does with their "bests" rankings. Unless there is some huge ethics controversy on the judging panel (rivaling what happened at '02 Olympics or '14 Olympics) then it seems more than justified to compare across competitions (not "well this tech caller was 'tough' and my favorite didn't place well so you can't compare"). IJS is a whole lot better of a comparison across competition than 6.0 was.
    I think placement is a better indicator than actual score. At least to me, placements generally tend to be right even when I have questions on the actual scoring.

    While the Technical score should be consistent across judging panels, it is not since GOEs are subjective. Whether a judge adds / subtracts a bullet is based on a judge''s personal opinion of the skated element. Judge 1 may think the lutz had a tricky entry and was executed with great height and a nice delay in rotation, all factors in + GOEs. Judge 2 may think the same lutz was average and the entry was nothing spectacular so gives 0 GOEs. Then you get technical specialists that are generous vs picky.

    All of these subjection decisions are fair and correct when the same standards are applied across the group. Since the dynamics of the panel is rarely the same from one competition to the next, the scores between competitions are bound will fluctuate. The IJS does not keep world records for this reason.

    But the IJS does need a way to compare skaters and due to lack of any other comparison tool, they have to rely on scores.

    To determine GP finalists, points are assigned based on placements. Scores are only factored in then the placement points are tied.

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    I've said it before and I'll say it again--Polina is still quite young--she's 19. She's younger than Ashley, Mirai, Mariah, Courtney. She's the same age as Bradie Tennell. She has gone from no triples over the summer, to falling on most of them at Glacier Falls, to falling and popping on half of them at Finlandia to doing a skate at the Grand Prix where she two-foots a landing on a combo, but the rest of her program is clean.

    I'm sure she'd love to be doing better, but she's made solid progress over the past four months. I doubt her FS will go perfectly--I think one of her issues has been building back her stamina--but I see no sign of her not taking skating seriously or getting ready to quit--she's made too much progress. She's always attended school while skating. I suspect her not putting the rest of her life on hold for skating is one of the reasons she has the grit she has.

    I also think Polina still has something to prove--she got close enough to the U.S. championship to taste it. She got to the Olympics, but wasn't in the team competition, so no medal. I'm not going to say she has a good shot for the Olympic team, but I think she has a good shot for a top five finish at Nationals, which will keep her in the conversation.

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