Kostner's plan for the Lutz in 2018?
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Yeap but my point is going for harder tech means higher chance to make mistakes. We shall see. I think she won’t medal at GPF if she risks. But it’s ok. She doesn’t need to show her best at GPF.
Kostner has to be the best technician of all time. Skaters do not demonstrate ability to jump high quality jumps in their 30. This is an inspiration for young skaters out there. The quality and textbook of the jumps are there all these years even if you can't see it like a tano.
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Possible layout that is slightly more ambitious in BV:
3Lz, 2A-3T, 3F-2T // 2A-1R-3S, 3F, 3R, 3S
Will easily be in contention against Zhenya and Zagi in the highly unlikely event that she goes clean. CaroK should really get higher PCS than the two Russian just based on her more mature interpretation and far stronger SS.
99% of men do not have steps prior to their quads. Only 2 or 3 really have transitions.
Textbook jumps do not include transitions. Hello?
She has already been doing 2A-3S this season. Re-introducing the Lutz will allow her to do 7 triples. So potentially she could go for 3Lz, 3F3T, 3L, 3T, 2A3S, 2A, 3Sal2T. I don't expect her to add the 3F3T at the GPF yet but definitely later on in the season. There would be no other significant reason for her to add the Lutz since it wouldn't make much difference in base value.
I wish coaches nowadays would take their time teaching their students proper technique instead of forcing 10 year olds to do triple triples. All those baby Russians... I can bet anything that none of them will be able to land any triples at all at 30 with the sloppy technique most of them have.
But then again, Russian girls retire before or shortly after they turn 20, so...
Who knows, all these years, maybe she should always get +3 GOE because her technique is the closest thing to an ideal jumping technique. It is not something you can see visually like a tano but it is the most effective and correct way.
People tend to discount correct technique, but that should be the foundation of all jumps. I like to see people with perfect technique getting at least +3. People without perfect technique can compensate with transitions and what not, but kostner's jumps should always get the highest GOE.
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The way they grade jumps are wrong. Someone with flutz shouldnt get +2 on their flutz.
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I'd probably like to see her do 3Lz, 3T3T, 3Lo, 3F, 2A3S, 2A, 3S2T, which is the same base value you suggested but has her doing the easier 3T3T.
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i think she would go 2a-3t..... higher base value like that with flips and sals as repeated jumps
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When was the last time Carolina landed a Lutz in competition? She has an Olympic Medal and several world medals including a championship in 2012. Has she never had a Lutz or is this a recent problem.
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i think it was sochi
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I believe she landed every lutz (or close to it) she attempted in the 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons, in which she opened her LP with the jump. Caro did the jump previously but did not do the jump for a few seasons due to comeback from injury. She doesn't take unnecessary risks, but including the jump shows she is serious about wanting another Olympic medal.
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She repeated toe and sal and got that high of a score? to medal??
