2018 Canadian Nationals Senior Short Dance

TontoK · Jan 12, 2018

blue_idealist said:
I don't think there's any message. Soucisse/Firus skated lights out, and W/P had a fall. They wouldn't be in fourth if it had just been a stumble, I don't think.

Yeah, looking at the protocols, I have to agree. No message.

The GOE on the elements following the twizzle fall make it clear they were doing what they could to keep them from dropping too far in the standings.

Now USA Fed would be sending a message with a a cannon. No subtlety in a USFSA "message." LOL

bramweld · Jan 12, 2018

rain said:
Gilles and Poirier will be Canadian silver medallists. W/P can't make up that point gap; it's just too big, I think. Very interesting turn of events. And how does that play into the Olympic bronze. Wow!

Trust me it's highly likely there will be a Gadbois sweep in PyeongChang. Almost feels it in the bones.

Chantilly · Jan 12, 2018

Virtue and Moir were amazing.

I do think they skated a tiny bit cautious, mostly in the NTS sequence and twizzles, but I’m being nit picky. But their Rhumba and partial step sequence were sublime. And their NTS was so detailed, musical and difficult.

The lift was incredible as per usual.

Loved the toned down expression with Scott.

Unfortunate about W and P, but have zero problem with the placement. They’re barely behind S and F who were fantastic.

slider11 · Jan 12, 2018

C'mon Weaver/Poje. You can do this!!

ancientpeas · Jan 12, 2018

Again Andrew's twizzles are why we can't have nice things.

Really strong work from the other four teams : V/M were great. G/P looked much better than during the GP season and S/F looked like they were ready to take that step up to being Canada's number 2 once V/M and W/P retire.

I fully expect W/P to pull up to bronze tomorrow. Heck if G/P mess up their FD they might just make it back up to second. Who knows.

Anyasnake · Jan 12, 2018

Chantilly said:
Virtue and Moir were amazing.

I do think they skated a tiny bit cautious, mostly in the NTS sequence and twizzles, but I’m being nit picky. But their Rhumba and partial step sequence were sublime. And their NTS was so detailed, musical and difficult.

In the twizzles sliiightly yes, but I'd rather have that than a Andrew meltdown.

In the NTS, it's because they changed the beginning, where at GPF they had a synchronisation issue and they dropped to a level 3.

For the Pst, they FINALLY tone it down. YES to that ! It gives a more romantic vibe to what should be a romantic dance, so they have to keep it that way. And the lift at the end was much smoother than at GPF too. Actually the whole performance felt tone down but it gave a much better effect than when they want to almost force a win (like at GPF) IMO.
(Now please guys change those costumes !)

Anyasnake · Jan 12, 2018

ancientpeas said:
I fully expect W/P to pull up to bronze tomorrow. Heck if G/P mess up their FD they might just make it back up to second. Who knows.

Ice is definitely slippery

At this point it's really nothing but mental for the Twz.

kresslia · Jan 12, 2018

NicolettaL said:
Canada also has the body of work thing, so I don't thin that WeaPo are out unless they will also bomb the FD

Even if they came 4th (very unlikely) I think SC would still send them. Their body of work is too strong not to, they are a genuine bronze medal threat.

ancientpeas · Jan 12, 2018

Anyasnake said:
Ice is definitely slippery At this point it's really nothing but mental for the Twz.

Andrew's twizzles are so *pulls out hair*.

I don't think this will affect Olympic team placements. Even W/P in 4th will go to Korea ahead of S/F. I'm pretty sure V/M will skate both the SD and FD in the team event.

Anyasnake · Jan 12, 2018

ancientpeas said:
Andrew's twizzles are so *pulls out hair*.

I don't think this will affect Olympic team placements. Even W/P in 4th will go to Korea ahead of S/F. I'm pretty sure V/M will skate both the SD and FD in the team event.

Oh for sure WeaPo are going to the games. And for sure V/M are doing the entire Team event otherwise Canada won't get gold.

ancientpeas · Jan 12, 2018

Anyasnake said:
Oh for sure WeaPo are going to the games. And for sure V/M are doing the entire Team event otherwise Canada won't get gold.

I still don't think we are getting the Gold. I think the Russians are going to win it (and as long as that's the fair result I'm okay with it..fairness over nationalism is my mantra). But we definitely need V/M to skate both ( They have the best chance to get first in the SD and if the French team doesn't make the Free program round they will win the 2nd part barring disaster). My biggest team worry is Patrick. Why does it so often come down to me worrying about Patrick?

Anyasnake · Jan 12, 2018

ancientpeas said:
I still don't think we are getting the Gold. I think the Russians are going to win it (and as long as that's the fair result I'm okay with it..fairness over nationalism is my mantra). But we definitely need V/M to skate both ( They have the best chance to get first in the SD and if the French team doesn't make the Free program round they will win the 2nd part barring disaster). My biggest team worry is Patrick. Why does it so often come down to me worrying about Patrick?

:thumbsup: to that.

I agree that Patrick will be a big factor to this. But then B/S might be beaten by 3 other teams in the SD, maybe 4. So it really depends on a lot of factor that we won't get to know before the event actually takes place.

bramweld · Jan 12, 2018

kresslia said:
Even if they came 4th (very unlikely) I think SC would still send them. Their body of work is too strong not to, they are a genuine bronze medal threat.

Niet, non, no, nein, whatchya talkin bout man? Morozov has completely sidelined this pair.

1. First he had no clue how to pitch the SD,
2. They were their most unprepared at the start of a season ever
3. He allowed them to pursue Spartacus? Really? They don't have the power and combined precision to make a program like
that believeable.
4. He makes them go back to JSM? No matter what, everytime they skate it it just feels old, for lack of a better word.

But finally I am mad at Andrew, man, why are you struggling so bad with those twizzles? :sad21:

beki · Jan 12, 2018

I’m really looking forward to the team gold battle. Too close to call.

ancientpeas · Jan 12, 2018

Anyasnake said:
:thumbsup: to that.

I agree that Patrick will be a big factor to this. But then B/S might be beaten by 3 other teams in the SD, maybe 4. So it really depends on a lot of factor that we won't get to know before the event actually takes place.

I will be really interested to see what the Americans do with their team visa vie dance. I mean.. H/D are national champions so they can't just leave them off the team, can they? Anyway.. I don't want to completely hijack the thread.

Wanted to add this: Patrick has caused me so much stress over the years that he makes me long for Elvis sometimes. At least you knew what you were getting from Elvis.

ancientpeas · Jan 12, 2018

bramweld said:
Niet, non, no, nein, whatchya talkin bout man? Morozov has completely sidelined this pair.

1. First he had no clue how to pitch the SD,
2. They were their most unprepared at the start of a season ever
3. He allowed them to pursue Spartacus? Really? They don't have the power and combined precision to make a program like
that believeable.
4. He makes them go back to JSM? No matter what, everytime they skate it it just feels old, for lack of a better word.

But finally I am mad at Andrew, man, why are you struggling so bad with those twizzles? :sad21:

Hey.. did you see the fluff piece about what Morozov said to W/P about their skating before he took them on? Pretty brutal stuff.

keasus · Jan 12, 2018

kresslia said:
85 incoming lmao

Wow, did you call that right. Have you considered a career as a telephone psychic?

Anyasnake · Jan 12, 2018

ancientpeas said:
Hey.. did you see the fluff piece about what Morozov said to W/P about their skating before he took them on? Pretty brutal stuff.

"My daughter is 12 and she skates faster than you ?" :drama:

It's like he read the forums and picked up all the best lines :rofl:

CAS · Jan 12, 2018

ancientpeas said:
Hey.. did you see the fluff piece about what Morozov said to W/P about their skating before he took them on? Pretty brutal stuff.

What did he say?

ancientpeas · Jan 12, 2018

CAS said:
What did he say?

Many unflattering things. I'll see if I can find a link to the actual piece as I don't want to misquote Mr. Morozov.

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