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It's the split dismount. Apparently it's not the first time they have been dinged for it either. Maybe they will change it before milan since it's been a problem.
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It's the split dismount. Apparently it's not the first time they have been dinged for it either. Maybe they will change it before milan since it's been a problem.
Thanks! I'll go look at their protocols from earlier this season. Hopefully they'll figure out how to change it before the short dance.
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No deduction in Minsk (CS), either GP or GPF, Europeans.
Me too!! It was brutal to see him after the short program, so upset and with none of his teammates there to support him; I wished someone could have given him a hug. Of all the underdog moments that could happen in the remainder of the team event, redemption for Misha is the one I most want to see.
Virtue and Moir had to tone down their lift for fd because it was too "risque" for global audiences http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/winter-olympics/winter-olympics-2018-pyeongchang-too-sexy-routine-figure-skaters-canada-video-a8205121.html
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The split dismount was rough this time, looking possibly like a loss of control but she was supported and pulled up by her partner. This is tough. But they still received high GOEs for the element, maybe because the "fall" was deemed to happen after the lift was completed.
After watching both video of Euro and today's SD - sorry, I have not my opinion. Lipnitskaia, commenting this, told that K/L almost popped exit of RoLi (she is very experienced, I trust her). Maybe this? But GOE of this element seven +2 and two +3, judges think that all right.
So let us fix the facts.
1. There is 1 point deduction in protocols for fall.
2. It does not affect to place.
On all the other I have no opinion.
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My considered mathematical opinion: if Canada can a way to lose, I'll turn in my diploma.
RUssia has 39 points. If Kolyada (!) and Zagitova both win and B&S get second, they will have 68 points.For Canada, assuming Virtue and Moir win, the only way that Canada ends up with less than that (67) is if both Chan and Daleman finish dead last. Chan will beat Rizzo, so that gives Canada 68 points even with a worst-case scenario for Chan. Daleman only has to beat Mirai to put Canada's total out of reach at 69+.
As you mentioned above, Russia needed to get second in pairs last night. :yes:
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My considered mathematical o[inion: if Canada can a way to lose, I'll turn in my diploma.
For Canada, assuming Virtue and Moir win, the only way that Canada ends up with less than that (67) is if both Chan and Daleman finish dead last. Chan will beat Rizzo, so that gives Canada 68 points even with a worst-case scenario for Chan. Daleman only has to beat Mirai to put Canada's total out of reach at 69+.
Thanks. That was my math too. Can Italy win the bronze?
I think not using T/M really cost them here. T/M could have beaten D/R.
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Seems almost a contraction to call it a fall and give them positive GOE for it. "Great... fall?"
I guess the judges didn't see it as a fall at all, while the referee did. Ok well. Thanks everyone.
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A fall can happen after a completed element and therefore not affect the element scores but will receive the standard mandatory fall deduction. This is a particularly difficult to define case and I chuck it up to the particularly tough tech panel. The judges evidently liked the lift very much.
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They can! Italy has only one point to make up. Kostner will probably get second and Rizzo last. That leaves it up to Capelini and Lanotte. Could they get second ahead of the Shibs and the Russians? Why not? That would give Italy 59 points. If the Shibs get only 3rd
and Mirai finishes last , that leaves it up to Rippon. He would have to win outright (possible in this field) to put the USA clearly ahead with 60 points. More likely the Shibs will get second with C&L at best 3rd, probably 4th. This takes the pressure off Adam and the USA will win with a middle of the pack finish in men.
The men are definitely the wild cards, if not the jokers. Adam could get anywhere from 1st to 4th. Tanaka could easily win IMHO. Chan could crush it. Or not.
I love this event!
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They can! Italy has only one point to make up. Kostner will probably get second and Rizzo last. That leaves it up to Capelini and Lanotte. Could they get second ahead of the Shibs and the Russians? Why not? That would give Italy 59 points. If the Shibs get only 3rd
More likely the Shibs will get second with C&L at best 3rd, probably 4th. This takes the pressure off Adam and the USA will win with a middle of the pack finish in men.
The men are definitely the wild cards, if not the jokers. Adam could get anywhere from 1st to 4th. Tanaka could easily win IMHO. Chan could crush it. Or not.
I love this event!
It's very exciting. I'm legitimately excited to see what happens tonight. No matter what happens and who wins.
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Me, too! I don't get all the Scrooges who say this is a stupid event and no one cares about it. If you win, that means that overall your country is the #1 figure skating country in the world, at least for the next four years.
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Me, too! I don't get all the Scrooges who say this is a stupid event and no one cares about it. If you win, that means that overall your country is the #1 figure skating country in the world, at least for the next four years.
And it's not like anyone is forcing them to watch it. Go watch snowboarding or curling if you hate the team event.
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Me, too! I don't get all the Scrooges who say this is a stupid event and no one cares about it. If you win, that means that overall your country is the #1 figure skating country in the world, at least for the next four years.
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OGM in team sports, summer and winter, are often the most coveted honour, bestowing great pride and bragging rights on a nation and perpetuating heated rivalries.
Go Team Canada! Bring that OGM in Figure Skating, Men and Women Hockey!
Me, too! I don't get all the Scrooges who say this is a stupid event and no one cares about it. If you win, that means that overall your country is the #1 figure skating country in the world, at least for the next four years.
With the current system I don't think that's what it means. Some changes in the system would be needed to make it more relevant in that particular aspect.
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Me, too! I don't get all the Scrooges who say this is a stupid event and no one cares about it. If you win, that means that overall your country is the #1 figure skating country in the world, at least for the next four years.
I don't understand the hate for team event either. I find it adds an exciting strategy element that I quite enjoy.
Many of the other individual sports also have team competitions at the Olympics and you don't hear the complaining about tiring out the athletes or the medals being pointless. It's strange to me, especially the overtaxing the skaters argument; there are so many athletes with multiple, difficult heats and qualifiers to get through and some of them even do it all for several events! The snowboarders, the speed skaters, the skiers - they aren't any tougher and their sports are no easier, so if they can handle odd hours and busy schedules then so can the figure skaters!
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How can they tell about the weight transfer? is it that obvious?
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