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If I could give you a thumb down, I would to your post.. It was clean.
Triple Axel launches Nagasu into history
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If I could give you a thumb down, I would to your post.. It was clean.
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I rewatched her 3A over and over again. And I love Mirai. But fairness is fairness. Mao got called UR for same kind of landings many times before. I am glad Mirai got no calls but yes technical calls might change depend on the tech panels. And didn't I say she had the best 3A out of everyone at the team event including men? Why you have to believe that people question something means they're negative about it?
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Because you are being Negative Nancy. It was called clean. Why do you have to bring in other tech callers that are not calling the jumps at the Olympics anyway??
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Mao was several times called *incorrectly* just because her blade swiveled a bit on the landing. Some callers on "big jumps" or for those that have a reputation for unders tend to see a slight hook or a swivel and just put in the carrot.
I watched it a few times. It looked past the quarter mark to me.
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Calm down. Seriously why are you so acting up? No one can take away that Mirai landed the best 3A at the team event, more than the men. I am just saying it's still tight and some tech specialist might be strict towards that. What's wrong with saying so?
I hope she will land it even better in the individual.
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Yeap I watched it many times as well and I was like: "I hope it's truly clean" because I love her. I think it was borderline but when it's borderline the skater still get the benefits so I am glad she got it.
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Truly clean? You do realize that's what the tech callers are for. They call jumps.
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And tech callers do give lenient and strict calls depends on time, location, camera... Same tech panel gave zero calls to Satoko at SA and here they called her two < (and at SA Satoko did worse).
I saw Mirai at CoR in Moscow, she landed the 3A before my own eyes and I thought it's clean but they called it. Now I am glad they ratified Mirai's 3A here, it does not mean I do not have the rights to question.
No, it's pretty clearly rotated. I've put a composite image of the takeoff and the landing here (hope I do this correctly, it's been a while):
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/... FS Mirai Nagasu 3A Composite_zpszjyerdyw.jpg
Mirai is slightly coming toward the camera during the jump, so the quarter mark on landing is with the heel slightly to the left of the toepick from the camera's vantage point. However, it wouldn't be much, and she's easily past the quarter mark. It's been a while since I've paid attention to major figure skating competitions, but if I'm interpreting the boxes in the upper left corner of the screen correctly, the technical panel didn't even bother to review the triple axel. (Those boxes are new. At least to me. I assume green = won't review or clean, yellow = will be reviewed, red = element has problems.)
Whereas Mao's Sochi LP 3A was clearly not yet at the quarter mark -- it was roughly 30 degrees or so short of the quarter mark, going by memory since it's been a while since I've measured it -- but it wasn't called as under-rotated. The judges do have a certain leeway that they usually give. Mirai's was much more rotated.
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Thank you so much. I mean this is what I am asking for and I get attacked for it. At Moscow I thought her 3A should have been ratified when I saw it but they did not. I was like "Oh what did she do wrong?". Thank you for the clarification. I am very happy for Mirai. Because on my timeline on Twitter some folks are saying Mirai got easy calls because USFA put money into that. I think her 3A was okay-ish but still unsure if it's really OK. Now with the photo it's clearer.
Mirai was fierce from the time her name was called to the ending pose. Actually from the 6-min warmup.
Talk about redemption! What an amazing achievement! Congrats Mirai!!!
Midori to Mao to Mirai. Legends!
I'm visiting my relatives in Southern California, so I'll see we can have dinner at her parents' restaurant!!
Talk about redemption! What an amazing achievement! Congrats Mirai!!!
Midori to Mao to Mirai. Legends!
I'm visiting my relatives in Southern California, so I'll see we can have dinner at her parents' restaurant!!
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Her parents will close their restaurant and fly to Korea to see her in the individual though?
That one was noticeably under-rotated. I've put a composite image of the takeoff and landing here:
http://s898.photobucket.com/user/Va...irai Nagasu 3A Composite_zpsxuea9pig.jpg.html
Again she's slightly coming toward the camera (though mostly moving to the left), so the quarter mark would be with her heel slightly to the left of the toe pick. But her heel is to the right. So she's not yet at the quarter mark -- and then it's just a matter of how much under it is and whether or not the judges would call it. In that instance, they did.
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Thanks for the images Vanshilar, but the way you are determining takeoff direction is not correct. The image on the right actually shows the point where Mirai was already 1/4 revolution into the jump. There is a 90-degree "prerotation" before the blade leaves the ice, and that 1/4 revolution is counted as part of the 3 1/2 revolutions of a 3A.
But hey, if Mirai's 3A looks clean even when you rob her of 1/4 revolution, then that proves it to be squeaky clean.
ETA: Here's the correct way to look at where a 3A should land based on its takeoff direction: https://youtu.be/kcKWfHDD0fg?t=5m6s The blue line is the actual takeoff direction.
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Mirai :luv17::luv17::luv17::luv17:
"I'm not crying. No - you're crying..."
"I'm not crying. No - you're crying..."
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went out of my boycotting of these games hybernation to congratulate dear Mirai!
I knew such persistent, disciplined, devoted, hard working & fun gal will go & achieve her goals!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I bet Tom Z & Papa Mishin are super happy for her!:dance:
I knew such persistent, disciplined, devoted, hard working & fun gal will go & achieve her goals!!!!!!!!!!!!
:hap93:I bet Tom Z & Papa Mishin are super happy for her!:dance:
Eh I'm not sure what you mean. The image on the right is the last frame where she was still on the ice. A straight line from that point to her landing position is the line against which the blade needs to be within a quarter turn of (IIRC some considers it the imaginary curve continuing from the takeoff curve to the landing curve -- but from physics the body's center of mass is traveling in a straight line over the ice when in the air). It's just used to establish the direction of the jump when measuring the amount of rotation of the blade on the landing (the image on the left). I'm not looking at how much she's pre-rotated on takeoff.
Totally!
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BfGuMI8H4dW/?hl=en&taken-by=mirainagasu
Super sweet culmination of their Olympic journey together.
