Trusova and Quads

CanadianSkaterGuy · Oct 6, 2018

Elucidus said:
I probably shoud started new topic with the name "Scherbakova and Quads" but considering that now she became really serious rival for Trusova - I think this topic will do. So, here we go - Anna just landed 4Lz+3T, 4Lz and 3Lz-3Lo all in one free program and she got 159.43 points for it (227 total) - which is higher than Zagitova's world record for the free, btw The total score could be like 10 points higher if not her fall in the short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDZZ0gAlvxQ (50fps)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jtxsUif7Ek (version with K&C but I don't like sound there)
https://fsrussia.ru/results/1819/2etap/eMC__Scores.pdf - protocols (B means 1 point bonus for great or complex elements in russian local competitions)

Ladies quads revolution already began

P.S.: I forgot to add that it was her senior version of the free - with added choreo sequence ^^

This is awesome! Was this an actual ISU competition? Or is this the Russian test skates? Can't read Russian.

Either way, super impressive!

Spirals for Miles · Oct 6, 2018

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
This is awesome! Was this an actual ISU competition? Or is this the Russian test skates? Can't read Russian. Either way, super impressive!

Not an ISU competition. It is the 2nd stage of the Cup of Russia (pipeline to make nationals but she’s already made it)

Deripashka · Oct 6, 2018

Im not sure but it looks like Anna apart from that another quad significantly add speed in comparison with previous JGP performances. I think its great tactic since it drag her attention from "omg how Im gonna splash on the ice on that coming quad!" to "ok speed it up Ana, speed it up, you have a lot to do!"

Gg Gg · Oct 8, 2018

charlotte14 said:
Both pre-rotated and under-rotated.

It's very clear.... I don't konw who are the judges or where they come from

Elucidus · Oct 8, 2018

Gg Gg said:
It's very clear.... I don't konw who are the judges or where they come from

If you meant last two Scherbakova's quads - of course it's not.
https://psv4.userapi.com/c848332/u98887022/docs/d11/04dba379c08f/Anya_PP_4l_0_5.gif
How it can be UR? And if you see there what I see - then you are deliberately LYING. Shame on you

hippomoomin · Oct 8, 2018

I think at the first quad is fully rotated.

Li'Kitsu · Oct 9, 2018

hippomoomin said:
I think at the first quad is fully rotated.

Yes that's what I'd say too, first one is rotated, second is not.

What's very obvious in the second one though is the edge change - she takes off clearly from an inside edge. I seriously don't get why they have her going for a 4Lz and not a different quad.

chopinskate · Oct 9, 2018

Why does she have this weird variable technique where she sometimes seems to be on a flat edge, other times seems to maintain the BOE for long enough, sometimes is off the ice at 180 degrees, and other times slightly more? Why not make the technique, IDK, stable?

Shayuki · Oct 9, 2018

chopinskate said:
Why does she have this weird variable technique where she sometimes seems to be on a flat edge, other times seems to maintain the BOE for long enough, sometimes is off the ice at 180 degrees, and other times slightly more? Why not make the technique, IDK, stable?

They're working on it. From July to December last year she wasn't even practicing triple jumps.

solani · Oct 9, 2018

Elucidus said:
Ladies quads revolution already began

Hmmm ... it's the girls quads revolution. I hope that we'll see them fit and healthy once they are eligible for senior competitions. We'll see tough junior competitions this season and I hope that they're not going to risk too much ... it's probably not worth it at this point in their careers. Even if the Junior WC scores more than the Senior WC, she's still "only" the Junior WC.
But it's going to be an interesting Olympic cycle in any case.

Kayyyn · Oct 9, 2018

"its just PR and UR"

Shayuki · Oct 9, 2018

There was some talk about her landing a 4T during practice at Russia Cup Stage II but I haven't found a video of such a thing. In an interview after the FS she said that her future plans include increasing her technical content and introducing new elements.

... Speaking of which, is this the first time 2 clean 4Lutz jumps have been performed in a program, man or woman? Has anyone actually ever done 2 before? Would be pretty incredible for a lady to become the first one instead of a man.

Arbitrary · Oct 9, 2018

No woman or girl ever landed two qlutzes.
The Wikipedia states first to land two qlutzes among men was Nathan Chen last year.

Shayuki said:
There was some talk about her landing a 4T during practice at Russia Cup Stage II but I haven't found a video of such a thing. In an interview after the FS she said that her future plans include increasing her technical content and introducing new elements.

... Speaking of which, is this the first time 2 clean 4Lutz jumps have been performed in a program, man or woman? Has anyone actually ever done 2 before? Would be pretty incredible for a lady to become the first one instead of a man.

Shayuki · Oct 9, 2018

Arbitrary said:
No woman or girl ever landed two qlutzes.
The Wikipedia states first to land two qlutzes among men was Nathan Chen last year.

Anna Shcherbakova just did.

Ah I see true, Nathan Chen did.

combo · Oct 9, 2018

Shayuki said:
Anna Shcherbakova just did.

In what competition did Nathan Chen do it?

Skate America 2017, 4Lz+3T +2.14, 4Lz +1.14

moriel · Oct 9, 2018

Well, still there is room for girls, and also the fact she will be second one ever to do it.

NymphyNymphy · Oct 9, 2018

Scherbakova's 4 Lz was wrongly called in Richmond. She fell but was completely round. ISU's tech panel are sleeping on the job.

MarinHondas · Oct 11, 2018

Landing two 4lutz is a big accomplishment and she should be super proud. Having said that, the second quad lutz was clearly underrotated, even in real time.

Alex65 · Oct 12, 2018

Well. Sasha tamed the third dragon. She is amazing! It would be interesting to know her plans for the future. Everything she says she does.

Sam-Skwantch · Oct 12, 2018

Congrats to our Tiny Overlord :bow:

Trusova and Quads

CanadianSkaterGuy

Spirals for Miles

Anna Shcherbakova is my World Champion

Deripashka

Gg Gg

Elucidus

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Li'Kitsu

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Shayuki

solani

Kayyyn

Shayuki

Arbitrary

Shayuki

combo

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NymphyNymphy

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