Is the 3A undervalued in women's TES?

tjb · Mar 16, 2018

they were saying this during 2010 olympics sp. how yuna's combo is more awesome than mao

Ice Dance · Mar 16, 2018

Yes, the triple axel is undervalued in the ladies event.

Sam-Skwantch · Mar 16, 2018

If skaters would start doing 3a’s in the last half of their program it would be worth more :biggrin:

oatmella · Mar 16, 2018

I think I recall a commentator saying that Yuna and Mao's combos were about equal during 2010 olympics SP.

TryMeLater · Mar 16, 2018

Shayuki said:
Reminder that Trusova performed the actual optimized layout for 2 different quads... Optimized layouts will be a thing, these aren't "layouts no one can do" if Trusova just performed one.

By not doing -3Lo combo you only lose 1 point. So in that case, performing a second 3A would only be worth 1.34 points more with your layout. Is it really worth it, even at that point? I don't think so, to me the risk of failure or poor GOE on a 3A far outweighs 1.3 points in BV.

I strongly believe that repeating a 3A is almost never a good idea. The benefit over just doing a single one is minimal. Only if the 3A is at a rock solid, stable level is it a good plan. But at that point, a quad would be far more potent still and with such a comfortable 3A, could be possible.

I totally agree regarding the optimized layouts.
The main problem with repeating the triple axel is the fact that you are only allowed to repeat two kinds of triples.
If they would consider the triple axel as a quad for the repeat count I think we might start to see some crazy content, esp. from Kihira.

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