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2018-19 Russian Ice Dance

lavoix

Match Penalty
Joined
Sep 5, 2015
They kinda missed the mark. Russian ID needs to realise that there's a new code of points in place.
 

gmyers

Record Breaker
Joined
Mar 6, 2010
They kinda missed the mark. Russian ID needs to realise that there's a new code of points in place.

Absolutely! What are they saying? There aren’t enough ice dance teams? Lol. It’s because of the lack of any success and that’s because no one in Russia ice dance establishment learns about dance COP.

They've been in denial for so many years. This error may be fatal :(
May be? It already has been fatal. An entire quad of no medals at gpf worlds or Olympics
 

elysium

On the Ice
Joined
Apr 11, 2014
Tiffany Zahorski's mum has confirmed on FSU that Polishchuk & Yakushev are training with Krylova and Konkina & Vakhnov are training with Liapina.

Happy to hear that Polishchuk is continuing. The new pairing can be interesting, as both are quite expressive.
 

RemyRose

YOLO
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Dec 28, 2005
Country
United-States
New interview from Angelika Krylova:
"There are many opportunities in Russia, they only need to be properly implemented"

Google translated

Silver medalist of the Olympic Games (1988), two-time world champion and European champion in ice dancing Angelica Krylova returned a month ago to Russia to continue coaching. About the team, a new group and plans - Angelika Krylova told the FFKKR website.

- Angelica, why did you decide to return to Russia?

- Five years ago, before the Olympics in Sochi, the leaders of our Federation of figure skating suggested that I return to Russia and work here. But for that moment I was not ready. First of all, psychologically. I, of course, became interested in this proposal, and all these five years seriously thought over and weighed it.

In America, I lived 24 years. But all these years I had a feeling of nostalgia and longing for my homeland. It seems to me that everyone who lives abroad, no matter how well, is still bored and happy to come home. But it's one thing to come on vacation, the other to come back and work here. A year ago I realized that later it would be more difficult for me to do this, because now my children are not yet such adults - Stella is 13, and Anthony is 11. At this age it is easier to adapt to everything new. In addition, a new Olympic cycle begins, so now it's logical to start work here. My decision to return was backed by our Federation, Elena Anatolievna Tchaikovsky, which is very important for me. Because without this support it would be difficult for me.

Well, then, remember, I was not the only one who decided to take such a step. In the 90s a lot of our coaches and athletes trained and lived in America, but after they returned to Russia. So I'm not the first and only person who comes home. In Moscow, I really feel at home.

- Moreover, over the years and conditions of life and work in Russia have changed.

-- Of course. Everything became much better and freer. This applies to living conditions. It is clear that in America you live outside the city, in your home, the skating rink is near. Moscow is a huge metropolis, and life is completely different. There is much that I missed there. Communication with colleagues, friends, mother, native language, theaters, cultural life, special energy. Training in their native language is quite another matter. In America, this was not enough.

- How did your children take this decision?

- With caution, of course. But I will try to create all conditions for them so that they like Russia, they feel comfortable here. At first it will be hard, because they have lived all their lives in America. Last summer Stella and Tony were in Moscow, and from this trip they had good impressions. Children, unlike adults, get used to any changes faster. The first year, probably, they will go to the English school, because they know the Russian language is not the level to study in our regular school. Continue to play sports, music. Stella plays double bass, is engaged in synchronized skating. Tony - hockey. I positively look to the future, I know that everything will be fine and I think that if problems arise, then they need to be solved as they arrive.

- When did you start working and where?

- When I made the final decision to return, I began to prepare for my arrival here. Helen Anatolievna Chaikovskaya, the most authoritative person in figure skating helped me a lot, she made me understand that I needed it. And, of course, coach Oleg Volkov, with whom we are now working together. Oleg prepared the ground where we will train. I am grateful to the director of the school "Megasport" and "Krylatskoe" Varvara Borisovna Barysheva, who is very helpful to us. Because the main problem in Moscow is the ice. There are many skating rinks, but many schools, coaches, students. And even find the ice "under the name" of the Olympic champions, world champions, is quite difficult. I know that many of our skaters would like to return, but they abandoned this idea for lack of conditions. I was lucky in this regard.

- There is already an understanding who, in addition to Oleg Volkov, will join your team, what specialists would you like to invite?

- My idea is to create a good team of specialists so that it works. This is a question number 1. I have an understanding of how to do this, but it takes time to try, to look at people in work, after which it is already decided who is right and who is not.

In addition to coaches, of course, you need a choreographer. Now all that is connected with the ballet, in figure skating has receded into the background. Perhaps, only in Russia, coaches remain staunch adherents of the "classics". But I am a man of "old traditions" and I believe that lines, beauty, positions should be the basis of everything. And this can already "build on" everything else. In modern figure skating, you can not do without acrobats. Supports, tricks - all this is necessary, especially at the stage of preparation of the program. You need a choreographer, because it's very hard for one to put programs to all students, staging work is a big thing. Plus a sound engineer, a costume master ... I'm not talking about psychologists who are used very widely in America. I do not know how now in Russia, in my time it was believed that the coach is the chief psychologist for his athletes. Clear, that trainers-assistants are needed, who will help with small pairs. It should be experienced specialists who also know dances, technique. In short, many people need it.

I arrived in Moscow in early April. Sharply joined the work. Of course, I was worried if we could work together with Oleg Volkov, because before that we knew each other only by competitions, where we came with our students. But everything turned out well.

Pasquale Kamerlengo will come in the summer and help our group, because our joint concept, our work in America had a good result. Now Pasquale started working in Detroit together with Igor Shpilband. He's a good director, it's evident from the programs that he put to many leading figure skaters.

- Which skater trains in your group?

"I wanted to start with small pairs." When information appeared that I was returning to Moscow, some people called me in America, they asked if I could see them. I've already seen a lot of athletes and still look. Children of different age come.

- Betina Popova with Sergei Mozgov and Alla Loboda - Paul Drozd also came by themselves?

- Of course. There were no preliminary agreements with skaters of the national team level. I repeat that I wanted to start with juniors, because adult athletes are a huge responsibility. These two couples asked themselves, they said they wanted to work with me. I did not show any initiative. Of course, the year will go to grinding, at first everything will not be perfect, but there are no miracles, it's a sport. Therefore, I will not promise anything in advance. The guys are talented. Now there are several pairs in our group. Athletes aged 9 to seniors. A couple from France is training - Louis Thoron with a new partner - a girl from Russia.

- In your opinion, what is the difference between the preparation of dance pairs for us and for the overseas?

- For many years of coaching I have gained a lot of experience. And I want to realize, transfer my knowledge to our athletes. The training systems for dancers are different here and there. They are difficult to change. We have a group system, there is an individual system. I think that for the dances on ice, the individual system will be much more progressive in the future. But so far, due to certain circumstances, because if compared with America, then training on ice takes much more time, here it is difficult to implement. Of course, there are individual lessons. But when the athletes go to a high level of the national team and a large group is created, the question of individual occupations rests on the amount of time and ice.

- What should be the relationship between the coach and the student?

- When you live in another country for so many years, you work on a different system, you get a wide-ranging experience, analyze how to do it better, to work so that the athlete is well, psychologically comfortable, in terms of health, there are no problems and so on. But athletes should always feel the distance between the coach and the student, because when you spend a lot of time with the students, they start to sit on your head. At this moment, we must calmly say: "Stop" and explain that this is my place, and here is yours. Now there are a lot of young coaches in figure skating, and this face is sometimes blurred. There is no such thing as it was before, that with the coach for "You" and only by name and patronymic. In America, everything is different. There everything for "you" - you, there is no middle name. Nevertheless, foreign athletes respect the trainers.

I like to spend time with my athletes, because I want them to feel comfortable with me. They can always come to my house. We can laugh, drink tea. But in training, they need to understand who is who. I can be soft, they perceive me that I'm good and kind, they say so, and it sounds so good in Russian - kind. But I can be different. I love justice, I do not like to punish for anything. But if I see that the athlete does not work, but plays the fool, then I become rigid.

- There was an opinion that overseas athletes are laid out in training from and to, because they themselves pay for lessons. And we have a lot of time wasted. Do you agree?

- All individually. And it depends on the coach and the athlete. In our time, when I was training, there was a strict discipline: I was late for at least one minute and I had to run 10 laps and do 20 push-ups.

Abroad, as elsewhere, athletes can work through their sleeves, be late for training. And if the coach is already on the ice, then he will make this time late in the bill, say that he does not like that tomorrow the athlete should come on time. In any case, discipline should be. This is the first impetus to success. It's been developed since childhood.

In Russia it is. Figure skating is very popular here. By the way, in many ways this attracted me, and influenced my arrival. I saw in Russia many children, from which you can "sculpt" good athletes. And I would like to grow from a young generation of real high-class athletes. In Russia there is a huge potential, many interesting, creative specialists in all directions, and this should be used in figure skating. There are so many opportunities, they need only be properly implemented.

- What do you think, which direction in ice dancing will prevail in the coming years?

- Now the slow style has become very fashionable, surrealism, where you have to think many things. All are equal to the Papadakisov, but not all of the Sizereans. Therefore, it seems to me that each pair needs to look for their own style, than always and our best dance duets differed.

-- Thank you.

Olga ERMOLINA, Tatiana FLADE
 

Mohacz

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Jan 24, 2006
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Poland
Does anybody know what is happening with Evgeni Platov? Does he still dedicate to coaching? If so, where does he work? With all the drama and coaching changes and speculations where the Russian skaters should train, I have not seen his name suggested as an alternative move from traditional Russian coaches. Everyone talks about the need to send the ice dancers to Montreal. Why not to him? Is he not active anymore? I liked his work with Penny and Nicholas. And wasn't he also training the Kerrs?
 

RemyRose

YOLO
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Dec 28, 2005
Country
United-States
Approved list of candidates for Russian national teams (main and reserve)

Main: Bobrova/Soloviev, Evdokimova/Bazin, Zahorski/Guerreiro, Popova/Mozgov, Skoptsova/Alyoshin, Stepanova/Bukin
Reserve: Sinitsina/Katsalapov, Loboda/Drozd, Morozova/Bagin

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://fsrussia.ru/files/docs/RUteam1819.pdf

ETA:

Junior dance (12-21 yrs):

Main: Kuts/Mikhailov, Ushakova/Nekrasov, Khudaiberdieva/Nazarov, Shevchenko/Eremenko, (Shpilevaya/Smirnov are age ineligible for JGP)
Reserve: Konkina/Vakhnov, Lazareva/Prokofiev
 

Mohacz

Medalist
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Jan 24, 2006
Country
Poland
So Bobrova and Soloviev are going to skate next season? Weren't they going to take time off? And Sinitsina and Katsalapov only as a reserve team? How is it going to affect their possible grand prix participation?
 

RemyRose

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So Bobrova and Soloviev are going to skate next season? Weren't they going to take time off? And Sinitsina and Katsalapov only as a reserve team? How is it going to affect their possible grand prix participation?

This is just the list for funding. S/K has a guaranteed GP and will more than likely get two.
 

Mattieu

Medalist
Joined
Dec 22, 2010
So Bobrova and Soloviev are going to skate next season? Weren't they going to take time off? And Sinitsina and Katsalapov only as a reserve team? How is it going to affect their possible grand prix participation?

Grand prix selection comes from the ISU not the Russian Fed, so their participation should not be affected.
They have a high enough SB to be allocated at least 1 GP and more likely 2.
 

Mohacz

Medalist
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Jan 24, 2006
Country
Poland
This is just the list for funding. S/K has a guaranteed GP and will more than likely get two.
How curious. I didn't know you could get funding even if you decided not to participate in any competition next season. I thought it was only for active athletes.
 

RemyRose

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How curious. I didn't know you could get funding even if you decided not to participate in any competition next season. I thought it was only for active athletes.

Athletes can always be removed from the list ;)
 

Abraxis12345

Final Flight
Joined
Apr 18, 2014
How curious. I didn't know you could get funding even if you decided not to participate in any competition next season. I thought it was only for active athletes.


The funding is based on results from the previous season and you have to put it in writing that you are retiring. That’s why Lipnitskaya was still on reserve teams last year even though she decided to retire.
 
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