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2018-19 U.S. Ladies' figure skating

jd0505

Rinkside
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Feb 17, 2019
Karen Chen posted a 3Lz+3T combo on her instagram story. Both seem fully rotated (the 3T seems a little suspicious though)
 

Icey

Record Breaker
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Nov 28, 2012
Has Gracie given an interview where she talks about the reason for her comeback? Remember when Elaine Zayak came back. She got 6th and seemed to be very thrilled with her experience. I hope Gracie will be happy to finish top 10.


Elaine finished 4th in her comeback.
 

frida80

Record Breaker
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Feb 13, 2014
The Cornell student paper has an interview with Karen. She'll be a biology major and it sounds like she's planning a coaching setup similar to Nathan's.

Olympian, National Champion, and Soon a Pre-Med Student: Figure Skater Karen Chen Looks Forward to Life at Cornell

I don’t think that’s a good idea. She still has problems with underrotations and her lip. She really needs to work with a specialist to fix her jumps p, now that the rules have changed and judges are less likely to give her the benefit of the doubt.

But who knows, maybe getting out of her environment where she has more things to focus on will help her nerves and help her become a better skater. That being said, I’m really excited about seeing her again. Her spins and spiral are so lovely! I’m hoping she has a good recovery season!
 

sjchilly

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Feb 16, 2010
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There should be enough time around a freshman schedule for up to three hours of training. But Ithaca is not New Haven. It will be time consuming to reach national or international events via air travel. I don't know if lab courses have changed in over 30 years, but freshman lab courses are not something that can be skipped for a long weekend of travel.
 

oatmella

陈巍
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Feb 23, 2014
Karen hasn’t competed (except that one SP) this season, would think it will be challenging to get back to competing - especially considering college and a demanding major.

Hopefully the long-distance coaching will work out for her.
 

drivingmissdaisy

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Feb 17, 2010
Karen hasn’t competed (except that one SP) this season, would think it will be challenging to get back to competing - especially considering college and a demanding major.

Hopefully the long-distance coaching will work out for her.

It will be tough for her. Unlike Nathan, who more or less just needs to maintain his current level to be competitive, Karen has a lot of work to do fixing some of her technical issues. I think she'd need a lot more guidance than a long-distance coaching situation would provide.
 

vitamintea

On the Ice
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Feb 14, 2018
It will be tough for her. Unlike Nathan, who more or less just needs to maintain his current level to be competitive, Karen has a lot of work to do fixing some of her technical issues. I think she'd need a lot more guidance than a long-distance coaching situation would provide.

Agreed. I really want things to work out for Karen's situation while she's at school, but it's undeniable that the ladies and men's disciplines are different in how consistency is valued. Let's say that Nathan had come back with a 5-quad FS and stumbled on one or two, that's still good enough to medal or come very close to it. The ladies events are all about consistency. She's got a gorgeous lutz and maaaaybe could land a quad one day, but she hasn't even been able to land all her triples... and with a bunch of young quadsters AND some otherwise very consistent skaters she has to compete against, I don't know if continuing would be effective.
 

theharleyquinn

Medalist
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Feb 25, 2014
I would definitely see Nathan as being the exception to the rule on these types of remote coaching situations. I'm glad he's illustrating that it's possible for younger skaters, but his circumstances are still relatively unique with the foundational skills and university resources he has. He's also managed to stay injury-free for several seasons now, which helps.
 

Ross74

Medalist
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Oct 8, 2015
There should be enough time around a freshman schedule for up to three hours of training. But Ithaca is not New Haven. It will be time consuming to reach national or international events via air travel. I don't know if lab courses have changed in over 30 years, but freshman lab courses are not something that can be skipped for a long weekend of travel.

This is true. The options flying in and out of Ithaca are Detroit, Philly and Dulles, and the flights out of Philly have reliability issues, especially late in the day. My son missed his first day of orientation at Cornell for this reason. He's had better luck flying in from Detroit.
 

sheetz

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Jan 10, 2015
But who knows, maybe getting out of her environment where she has more things to focus on will help her nerves and help her become a better skater.

Not just this, but I think going away to college can help someone like Karen grow as a person. She's been homeschooled for so long that she's missed out on being a normal teenager. Besides, the chances of her making another Olympic team are slim regardless of her training situation so it's probably worth a shot to take advantage of this opportunity. The worst thing that could happen is that she retires from skating and gets a degree from a top university. Nothing to be ashamed of.
 

bubblecherry

Final Flight
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Feb 20, 2018
Of course it will be hard, but rather than being all doom and gloom, I must say I'm excited to see her compete again.
 

tothepointe

On the Ice
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Mar 4, 2018
There should be enough time around a freshman schedule for up to three hours of training. But Ithaca is not New Haven. It will be time consuming to reach national or international events via air travel. I don't know if lab courses have changed in over 30 years, but freshman lab courses are not something that can be skipped for a long weekend of travel.

Sadly they have. I'm not sure how Cornell sets up it's biology major but it's unlikely that she'll have many major-specific courses in her freshman year.

But I suspect that perhaps her skating career will start to fizzle out as she gets further into her schooling. As a home school student, she might not be anticipating how much time physically being on campus takes up. Class schedules are rarely compact and convenient. But I think she knows she has to start moving forward in the rest of her life if this skating thing isn't going to work out. I know she had stated before the Olympics she wasn't planning to continue but that was when she expected to have a good experience (perhaps snag a team medal and another national championship)
 

tothepointe

On the Ice
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Not just this, but I think going away to college can help someone like Karen grow as a person. She's been homeschooled for so long that she's missed out on being a normal teenager. Besides, the chances of her making another Olympic team are slim regardless of her training situation so it's probably worth a shot to take advantage of this opportunity. The worst thing that could happen is that she retires from skating and gets a degree from a top university. Nothing to be ashamed of.

It's pretty much the best you could possibly hope for a young person. Go to the Olympics, get a national championship, and get into a great college. Yes, there is more out there but very few people win world or olympic medals. I want all my favorite skaters to win Olympic medals but they'd have to hold them every two weeks for that to happen.
 
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