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Thread: 2018-2019 State of US Ladies' Skating

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    Quote Originally Posted by frida80 View Post
    They are still very unlikely to get any additional slots. They got the ones they have by clever politicking that allows them to bypass the sectionals to qualify for nationals. Substitutes are at the discretion of the host. Without some outside pressure, they're unlikely to get the spot. USFS has no reason to push them. And US competitors are expensive to move around and get visas for in some countries. Their best shot at a second spot is Canada. Next is France. But they aren't getting any fed support. Considering that Courtney got an alternate slot last year and Angela had no slot at all, in very sure they’re happy with their solo spots.

    And I expect some Feds would less likely to give a spot to someone that already has one.
    It depends entirely on the host. Some hosts would never pick either skater, some would. For instance, Japan would have no problem picking either of them because neither is competitive against Japanese skaters. But Courtney has medaled in Russia, so Russia would be unlikely to pick her again.

    I doubt France would pick either Angela or Courtney, as both have SBs in the 80s; the French ladies have SBs in the low 70s (perhaps that's why Algotsson, with an SB in the 60s was invited). The rest of the field are heavy hitters with SBs of 192-238.

    Also, distance is a factor, particularly when there is a last-minute vacancy. Canada might pick one of Courtney or Angela if there was a withdrawal close to two weeks of the start date of SC. After all, USFS did pick Chartrand and Reynolds for their SA vacancies, and the time wasn't close.

    BTW, Angela didn't have a GP slot last year because in the 2016-2017 season she was injured and didn't compete in any GP, Challenger or ISU Championship events and so wasn't on the SB list (B events don't get on the list) and therefore not on the substitute list as well. Last season, because she was recovering from injury, she wasn't put forward by USFS for initial GP selection in the 2017-2018 season, but was given Challenger assignments. Angela did well enough at those events to get at least one GP invitation this season and is on the substitute list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    It depends entirely on the host. Some hosts would never pick either skater, some would. For instance, Japan would have no problem picking either of them because neither is competitive against Japanese skaters. But Courtney has medaled in Russia, so Russia would be unlikely to pick her again.

    I doubt France would pick either Angela or Courtney, as both have SBs in the 80s; the French ladies have SBs in the low 70s (perhaps that's why Algotsson, with an SB in the 60s was invited). The rest of the field are heavy hitters with SBs of 192-238.

    Also, distance is a factor, particularly when there is a last-minute vacancy. Canada might pick one of Courtney or Angela if there was a withdrawal close to two weeks of the start date of SC. After all, USFS did pick Chartrand and Reynolds for their SA vacancies, and the time wasn't close.

    BTW, Angela didn't have a GP slot last year because in the 2016-2017 season she was injured and didn't compete in any GP, Challenger or ISU Championship events and so wasn't on the SB list (B events don't get on the list) and therefore not on the substitute list as well. Last season, because she was recovering from injury, she wasn't put forward by USFS for initial GP selection in the 2017-2018 season, but was given Challenger assignments. Angela did well enough at those events to get at least one GP invitation this season and is on the substitute list.
    I think IDF is a better possibility because the ladies are so weak. This is the strongest line up in the GP. Both French ladies are going to finish close to the bottom regardless who they have to substitute. It’s pointless to chose someone that mate boost the ladies one place and give up precious bartering power. OTOH they have the best dance and a strong pair team. In terms of GP next year, it may be a good idea to curry favor with the weaker pair countries. Since Japan has three Japanese ladies there already, the next in line is the US.


    I agree that NHK would probably take them, but they’re both already competing there already.

    Russia prefers European skaters. Although, their choice Alexia, who actually lives in NYC, is a little confusing. I guess that falls under politicking again.

    Canada is definitely the best spot, as they are easy to transport. But Gabby is not the best fall competitor. They will pick a softy for her. Angela would be the best pick there. Her current score summer comp score is far lower than Courtney.

    Finland is also a possibility. They have nothing to lose if they chose either of them. They would probably go down the list without bias.

    But again, I have serious doubts that either will get a second spot. I’m sure that Emmy will be chosen to sub if called upon.

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    When will the group photo be taken so we can see which lady gets the Skate America tbd spot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frida80 View Post
    Russia prefers European skaters. Although, their choice Alexia, who actually lives in NYC, is a little confusing. I guess that falls under politicking again.
    Alexia may live in NYC, but she competes for Switzerland, so she is technically European.

    It isn't so much politicking as it is "padding" for Russia's own skaters, such as their TBD and possibly Tsurskaya, who has a Seasons Best (SB) of 210 but sometimes has physical problems that can affect her performance.

    The only skaters at Rostelecom other than Tsurskaya who have SBs over 200 are Tursynbaeva and seeds Higuchi and Zagitova.

    Two skaters have SBs of 195: Matsuda and Yamashi*a
    Matsuda earned her SB at 2017 Lombardia Trophy. She was 6th at Rostelecom 2016 as a GP newbie.
    Yamashi*a earned hers at WJC 2018. She is a GP newbie this season.

    The roster includes three more GP newbies: Eunsoo Lim, Schott, and Paganini. Lim's SB is 186, Schott's is 174 and Paganini's is 161.

    US skaters Karen Chen (SB 185) and Gracie Gold are both highly unpredictable.

    * I had to show her name thusly because I received a stern message that a certain 4 letter combination starting with s and ending with t is forbidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Alexia may live in NYC, but she competes for Switzerland, so she is technically European.

    It isn't so much politicking as it is "padding" for Russia's own skaters, such as their TBD and possibly Tsurskaya, who has a PB of 210 but sometimes has physical problems that can affect her performance.

    The only skaters at Rostelecom other than Tsurskaya who have PBs over 200 are Tursynbaeva and seeds Higuchi and Zagitova.

    Two skaters have SBs of 195: Matsuda and Yamashi*a
    Matsuda earned her SB at 2017 Lombardia Trophy. She was 6th at Rostelecom 2016 as a GP newbie.
    Yamashi*a earned hers at WJC 2018. She is a GP newbie this season.

    The roster includes three more GP newbies: Eunsoo Lim, Schott, and Paganini. Lim's SB is 186, Schott's is 174 and Paganini's is 161.

    US skaters Karen Chen (PB 185) and Gracie Gold are both highly unpredictable.

    * I had to show her name thusly because I received a stern message that a certain 4 letter combination starting with s and ending with t is forbidden.
    Karen’s PB is 199 not 185

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    No one ever actually mentioned what music bradie is using for her sp. What is it called?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarinHondas View Post
    Karen’s PB is 199 not 185
    I think it meant her SB from last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavi... View Post
    Yeah, I know! But I fear that she will withdraw again like last year. She was at Champs Camp back then too.

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    Congrats to Kate Wang on her win in the North American Series novice event this weekend; I was really impressed by her! She landed a 3Lz-3T and 3F in her SP and went for (but fell on) a 3Lz-3Lo< in the FS. It's great to see novice skaters shooting for those tough combinations. Her SP is here, she's the first one to skate at ~6 min: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6s5unn

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    Uhhhhh, Kaitlyn Nguyen wasn’t invited to that junior champs camp thing that Lynn tweeted about. Uh-oh. I wonder what’s up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluediamonds09 View Post
    Uhhhhh, Kaitlyn Nguyen wasn’t invited to that junior champs camp thing that Lynn tweeted about. Uh-oh. I wonder what’s up.
    Neither was Hanna Harrell, or I didn't see her in the picture at least...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirals for Miles View Post
    Neither was Hanna Harrell, or I didn't see her in the picture at least...
    According to Lynne Rutherford, those invited to the Emerging Athletes Program are Hanna Harrell, Pooja Kalyan, Andrew Torgashev, Alysa Liu, Camden Pulkinen, Ting Cui, TJ Nyman/Sarah Feng, Tomoki Hiwatashi

    https://twitter.com/LynnRutherford/s...54756099477504

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    Oh good. Wonder where Audrey Shin is, though, since she has a JGP already...

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