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Going way back, arguably the first big reduction of the value of compulsory figures was in response to Trixi Schuba.
I call it Janet Lynn rule, though Schuba was so exact and excellent.
Going way back, arguably the first big reduction of the value of compulsory figures was in response to Trixi Schuba.
you are mistaken here
flip BV was lowered while the 3T BV was raised during the time they were skating....
so even if it's a small 0.1 value, she is right.... the ISU did not encourage them to land very hard sbs 3lz... in fact, they raised the value of the simplest and most common jump, the 3t..... do i need to elaborate?
Don't the throw triple lutz and the throw triple flip have the same value and are classified as the same jump even though the throw triple lutz is much harder?
*Before* they won their first world title, though. The 3F/LzTh and the 3F/3Lz have had the same values over this whole quad and the 3T/3S values had already been raised starting that season.you are mistaken here
flip BV was lowered while the 3T BV was raised during the time they were skating....
so even if it's a small 0.1 value, she is right.... the ISU did not encourage them to land very hard sbs 3lz... in fact, they raised the value of the simplest and most common jump, the 3t..... do i need to elaborate?
Why did spirals sequence become non-compulsory?
Yes! And to stop programs that ended with the skater "dying" on the ice at the end - which was probably for the best because everybody was doing it!
Torville and Dean only did the kneeling thing to take advantage of a loophole in the rules where the program didn't actually count as having started until the man put his skates on the ice. They felt that they couldn't cut Bolero down any more, so that way they could have the extra thirty seconds in and not get a time deduction.
I for one would like to know when the no-tights for men came in...who was responsible for that one I wonder!
SOLO 3A in place of the required 2A.
Tonya Harding did 3A combination in the short program at 1991 Skate America. It was always legal in the combination when the combination allowed at least one triple.
My speculations: Many skaters repeated the same pattern (arabesque to catch foot, then Y-spiral or cross-foot), the spirals were of inferior quality in many cases and it took too much time in the actual program.
Perhaps they were too easy to be of much use in evaluating skaters anymore if everyone could achieve that.
I prefer to think of it in a more positive light: the move toward reduction of the weight accorded to figures resulted from the brilliance of Toller (and Janet Lynn) not being adequately recognized.
I would also add in Karen Magnussen in that sentence as both Karen Magnussen and Janet Lynn competed against Trixi Schuba and were always behind Trixi in the school figures.
I think that's right, but I am sad about it even so. The long, glorious, dramatic spiral used to be the absolute highlight of many ladies' programs (along with an iconic layback spin). In my opinion the sport is diminished by downplaying this element. It's a down-right non-Cohenesque shame. :yes:
if only all programs were 4 mins 15s +/- 15s, that way you could have still had 4 minute Ladies programs, and 4min 30s men ones, with 1 less jumping pass.