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    News IOC Commissions move towards gender equality

    August 8, 2018
    IOC Commissions move towards gender equality with new compositions announced

    The International Olympic Committee today announced the composition of the IOC commissions for 2018, with continued progress towards gender equality.

    Women will now occupy 30 more commission positions than last year, reflecting the IOC’s commitment to improve gender equality throughout all levels of sport. In total, 42.7 per cent of the positions across the 26 IOC commissions will now be held by women – a historic high.

    This represents an increase of 16.8 per cent in female participation compared to 2017 and an improvement of 98 per cent since 2013.

    The changes also include increases in the number of members from Africa and Oceania.
    President Bach said: “The IOC is continuing to increase female participation and geographical representation at every level of the Olympic Movement. We have made significant progress in the past few years and this work will continue. Universality is at the heart of the Olympic Movement, and it is this strength through diversity which unites us all.”

    The IOC commissions, in addition to providing assistance to the IOC and to the Organising Committees for the Olympic Games, engage in a range of activities throughout the year, contributing to building a better world through sport. Their work supports the Olympic Movement and helps progress in topics such as the development of “Sport for All”; cooperation with public and private organisations to place sport at the service of humankind; the fight against doping; the promotion of sports ethics and fair play; awareness of environmental problems; financial and educational support for developing countries; and many other areas.

    Due to the Youth Olympic Games in Buenos Aires in October this year, the IOC commissions’ meetings for 2018 will exceptionally take place from 14 to 20 January 2019. For 2019, the IOC will go back to its previous schedule, with the review of the commissions’ composition in spring and Commissions’ Week to be held in November 2019.

    The review of the scope and composition of the IOC commissions was one of the 40 recommendations of Olympic Agenda 2020, which was approved by the 127th IOC Session in December 2014 in Monaco.
    A list of all the commissions can be found here.

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    If it fair when important places go to people cause of any quota and not cause this people best in smt? What about quality of work?: Scratch2:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitano View Post
    If it fair when important places go to people cause of any quota and not cause this people best in smt? What about quality of work?: Scratch2:
    Why are you assuming that the women have a poorer quality of work than the men?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitano View Post
    If it fair when important places go to people cause of any quota and not cause this people best in smt? What about quality of work?: Scratch2:
    Is it fair when important positions go to people because of their gender and not because they’re best at something? No and that‘s what this is about. And also, there‘s probably loads of talented and suitable men and women applying for these positions and they just pick an equal number of both of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andromache View Post
    Why are you assuming that the women have a poorer quality of work than the men?
    Why are you assuming that their work is of an equal quality? Considering all the politics around this, I suppose no one cared for actual abilities of the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitano View Post
    If it fair when important places go to people cause of any quota and not cause this people best in smt? What about quality of work?: Scratch2:
    Yes, it is. Historically women held small positions not because of their abilities, but because of the lack of opportunities in a male-dominated environment. Is it fair to them?

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    It's a step in the right direction, but when the sport continues to use the term "ladies" to describe women without using "gentlemen" to describe men, I fail to see how substantial that progress really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mau View Post
    Yes, it is. Historically women held small positions not because of their abilities, but because of the lack of opportunities in a male-dominated environment.
    Exactly. And I think it's great that the IOC is committing to having more talented, capable women work alongside talented, capable men.

    Quote Originally Posted by WeakAnkles View Post
    It's a step in the right direction, but when the sport continues to use the term "ladies" to describe women without using "gentlemen" to describe men, I fail to see how substantial that progress really is.
    Yes, this bothers me also. Words carry baggage and connotations. To me, the word "lady" conjures images of women as delicate flowers, meek and mild. But the women of figure skating are incredibly strong, fit and resilient athletes at the peak of sport and fitness. Delicate flowers they ain't.

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    So long as the candidates are qualified and have the skills for the job, sex (and gender, for that matter) shouldn't even really be a factor in the vast majority of cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mau View Post
    Historically women held small positions not because of their abilities, but because of the lack of opportunities in a male-dominated environment.
    How come? Why did women let that happen many thousands years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castiel View Post
    How come? Why did women let that happen many thousands years ago?
    Because of the way we have to have children we can't just drop them out of the hatch and have them up and running in 1 hour or less. So since the dawn of time we've had to rely on male protection so we could raise our offspring. Of course without this concession the species would not have survived. So now can we have some equality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by draqq View Post
    So long as the candidates are qualified and have the skills for the job, sex (and gender, for that matter) shouldn't even really be a factor in the vast majority of cases.
    And hopefully we'll get to that point in the (nearest as possible) future. But we're not there, and to call for absolute equality in theory when there isn't anything like it in reality is a bit disingenuous, no? Numbers do matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castiel View Post
    How come? Why did women let that happen many thousands years ago?
    Well, it's not like they had option: women could not even vote decades ago.

    And as the user above said, women spent a lot of time having their roles in society reduced to mothers and housewives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeakAnkles View Post
    And hopefully we'll get to that point in the (nearest as possible) future. But we're not there, and to call for absolute equality in theory when there isn't anything like it in reality is a bit disingenuous, no? Numbers do matter.
    True. I don't particularly care for the equality of outcome argument as opposed to equality of opportunity and a meritocracy. That said, I am encouraged that the ISU is recognizing that women are no less qualified to be leaders as men are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andromache View Post
    Why are you assuming that the women have a poorer quality of work than the men?
    If i really sayd smt such: Scratch2:
    I think that real equality its when in such situation you not use words man or woman and simply choose the best people without any quota, cause so its always risk that work will go to people with not very good professional skill, not important man it will be or woman. I think that would be better to improve and upgrade screening and test system.

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    Meritocracy has also its problems - there have been studies (quite a few of them) that if two candidates, male and female, with EXACTLY the same CV and skills and accomplishments etc., apply for the same position, the man gets valued higher than the woman.

    Unfortunately, equality does not seem to come naturally to human beings in many respects, and it is necessary to take conscious actions towards making the situation different! Voting, education, work outside the home etc. are rights women have had to fight for, they have not been agreed upon mutually or upon merit or ability. It takes a lot of work - and time - to change systems that have been in power for thousands of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eppen View Post
    Meritocracy has also its problems - there have been studies (quite a few of them) that if two candidates, male and female, with EXACTLY the same CV and skills and accomplishments etc., apply for the same position, the man gets valued higher than the woman.

    Unfortunately, equality does not seem to come naturally to human beings in many respects, and it is necessary to take conscious actions towards making the situation different! Voting, education, work outside the home etc. are rights women have had to fight for, they have not been agreed upon mutually or upon merit or ability. It takes a lot of work - and time - to change systems that have been in power for thousands of years.

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    But there have also been many cases where the beautiful blonde with less skill, took the job instead of the men with less good looking but more skill. Formula 1 is full of that, so are many TV products.

    You can not correct one wrong, with another one. It should be about quality of work, not if you are a guy or girl.

    It is much more important that price money is made equal, that starting times for athletes are handed properly, so that the Ladies don´t have these aweful shedules... If a female soccer player earns 100k a year, but a male 15M, then something is just wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex D View Post
    But there have also been many cases where the beautiful blonde with less skill, took the job instead of the men with less good looking but more skill. Formula 1 is full of that, so are many TV products.

    You can not correct one wrong, with another one. It should be about quality of work, not if you are a guy or girl.

    It is much more important that price money is made equal, that starting times for athletes are handed properly, so that the Ladies don´t have these aweful shedules... If a female soccer player earns 100k a year, but a male 15M, then something is just wrong.
    Formula 1 and blondes kind of make me think of Mika Häkkinen and Kimi Räikkönen, but I think you were probably intending other jobs than drivers Unfortunately, pretty blondes getting jobs over more qualified men are probably a small minority in comparison with a qualified and capable women not getting jobs because of less qualified men being chosen over them for whatever reason.

    It would be ideal that merit and qualifications would always decide, but we are just not there yet IMO...

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