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Thread: 2018 GP Helsinki: Thoughts, Analysis & Reviews

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    There is nothing wrong with criticizing the judging or scoring of skaters or events, but what I find disturbing is how so many of them often seem to become personal attacks on the skaters who that particular poster (or posters) actively dislikes. When you look at who is doing the criticizing, you will find a subset of posters who frequently hate only on Alina, other posters who love to hate on Satoko (just look at the NHK thread) and of course those who hate on Zhenya. These posters also seem unable to find any merits in the skaters they are criticizing. That’s why it’s hard for me to take their “criticisms” seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateflake View Post
    I wrote up how I made my best ranking predictions so far and would like to share it. I'm not sure if this is the best thread for it but it does contain some analysis concerning Grand Prix Helsinki!

    GRAND PRIX SKATING PREDICTIONS GAME - HOW TO MAKE A WINNING LIST

    This is how I chose a gold medal prediction for the Men in the GP Helsinki 2018.

    First, start with the list of men, handily provided (thank you CaroLiza_fan):
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    I found this most amusing! Update us on how this strategy worked out in the soon to be posted NHK Analysis thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokoyami View Post
    well....it does say analysis in the title of the thread. Sorry but if we can't discuss scoring abnormalities regarding skaters who were actually at this event here then im confused as to where else we're supposed to take this. If we make another thread just about "Alina Zagitova is being Overscored" that opens the door for many trolls and negative, toxic people to come in and just complain and whine and that thread will surely be closed before anyone will have the chance to say 'Evgenia Medvedeva'

    If you don't like reading these things then just hang out in the fan fests. We're not being overly critical to Alina by discussing her overblown scores and if you think people are then the 'report' and 'ignore' button exists for a reason
    Yeah, my wrong. I was thinking it was just a criticizing from your part. When indeed was the real 'analyses' of the competition

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    I loved Charlie White's commentary. Almost as good to me as John Coughlin and that is high praise coming from me. The worst thing was that horrible ad with the ugly feet. It distracted me from all else. And at center ice, gah. Beautiful skater/ugly feet. Fabulous spin/ugly feet. Over and over. Like something out of a nightmare. Should be illegal.

    Also: No one should skate to Carmen (I'm starting to sound like Johnny Weir). My favorite part of any skating competition when Hanyu skates is the Unleashing of the Poohs. I wonder how long the sweepers have to train to corral them all in a timely fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seruleane View Post
    There is nothing wrong with criticizing the judging or scoring of skaters or events, but what I find disturbing is how so many of them often seem to become personal attacks on the skaters who that particular poster (or posters) actively dislikes. When you look at who is doing the criticizing, you will find a subset of posters who frequently hate only on Alina, other posters who love to hate on Satoko (just look at the NHK thread) and of course those who hate on Zhenya. These posters also seem unable to find any merits in the skaters they are criticizing. That’s why it’s hard for me to take their “criticisms” seriously.
    Yes, the extreme bias/obvious agendas of certain ultra anti-fans is so blatant it’s funny. It certainly exists with men too. E.g. — When Kolyada messes up it’s because he lacks “character,” but when his closest rival messes up oh it’s just silly mistakes or early in the season or suspected injury; when Kolyada gets good results it’s never due to his skating but because he’s always unfairly gifted by the judges or benefited from others’ mistakes, but conversely when his compatriot gets good results it’s bc he’s deserving. LOL, at least it’s good for entertainment

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonvine View Post
    I loved Charlie White's commentary. Almost as good to me as John Coughlin and that is high praise coming from me. The worst thing was that horrible ad with the ugly feet. It distracted me from all else. And at center ice, gah. Beautiful skater/ugly feet. Fabulous spin/ugly feet. Over and over. Like something out of a nightmare. Should be illegal.

    Also: No one should skate to Carmen (I'm starting to sound like Johnny Weir). My favorite part of any skating competition when Hanyu skates is the Unleashing of the Poohs. I wonder how long the sweepers have to train to corral them all in a timely fashion.
    Charlie is fantastic and has a lot of technical knowledge even for singles. He's also not afraid of being critical. If any one gets NBC Olympics in 4K I recommend listening to Charlie's commentary. It was there he revealed that before he switched to ice dance he actually had all of his triples up to the axel, so that explains a lot.

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