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Given that Yuzuru did a 4T-3A SEQ do you think it's possible to do a quad-quad combo? Or even a triple-quad combo - maybe 3A-4T or 3Lz-4T
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This, to me, is the hardest combo ever executed. Not in competition so it's not official, but it was actually cleanly done and shown to be possible.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y6gmTT8rDUk
Also impressed by Dimitriev's 3Z+3F - something I didn't even conceive could be included on a protocol. And ratified, let alone executed.
Other hard combinations:
Chen/Jin/Zhou: 4Z+3T
Chen/Zhou/Uno: 4F+3T
Sadovsky: 4S+Eu+3S
Hanyu: 4T+Eu+3S
Uno/Plushenko: 3A+Eu+3F
Plushenko: 4T+3T+3L
Trusova: 4T+3T
Kihira: 3A+3T
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When?
According to Brian Orser, Yuzuru has done 4T-4T-4T in practice (original interview, fan translation).
I suspect we won't be seeing 4T+4T in competition any time soon though, since it's not really worth it...then again you might say the same about 4T+3A, so who knows.
I suspect we won't be seeing 4T+4T in competition any time soon though, since it's not really worth it...then again you might say the same about 4T+3A, so who knows.
New layout for Yuzu:
4T-4T
4Lo
4S
3A-Eu-3S
3F
3A-3T
3Lo
Less quad jumping passes vs can you land the second quad cleanly
Could consider doing 4S-4T for novelty instead (his 4S and 4T are at equivalent god-like levels; wouldn't be surprised if he could both)
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In the lead up to Vancouver (I think), Plushy did practice at 3A-4T combo, obviously he couldn't get it down, but it looked pretty cool!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0NJO6Pw1pI
I was somewhat surprised that Yuzu didn't go for that, but I guess getting the momentum for the quad after the 3A is hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0NJO6Pw1pI
I was somewhat surprised that Yuzu didn't go for that, but I guess getting the momentum for the quad after the 3A is hard.
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I’m sorry but I don’t think a 4T-4T-4T is even possible at this point, the amount of speed you would have to maintain throughout the jumps is very high and this combination seems nearly impossible. Sometimes Yuzuru struggles to get the 3T done on the 4T in competition.
And sometimes, his 4T looks marvellous. We can't deny that Yuzu's 4T is one of the best in the business. Orser only said that Yuzu has done 3×4T, no indication of the success rate (probably quite low)
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lol
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roflmao
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muahaha
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It's not impossible if you are doing it in a stress free environment just having fun as Orser say he is doing. There is difference between what skaters can do in training/practice and in actual competition. During the open practices Hanyu jumps solo 4T-3Ts and 4T-3As effortlessly. And in competition, he is jumping the 4T-3T as last jump of SP in second half for the 10% bonus (which other man don't dare to because if you stuff-up you are doomed), meaning he has huge mental pressure and fatigue going into it.
And there is practice footage of him doing the 4Lz-3T from last year but given his injury he is unlikely to debut this combo now.
...why would Brian Orser randomly lie about this?
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I don’t think they were saying he was lying...? More that it’s not possible cleanly or in competition.
Personally I think quad-quad jumps are the next frontier, certainly before the 4A and definitely before quints. I think the kind of skill for a 4A just isn’t around just yet but gaining the power for quad-quads is more achievable. Then again the weight you gain when you gain more power...
Actually now that I think about it what do I know! lol
