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2019 European Championships: Men's Pregame Chat

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2019 European Figure Skating Championships: Men
Jan 21-27, 2019
Minsk, Belarus


General constructive discussion including injuries, updates, program changes, withdrawals, substitutes, etc.

Please do not discuss/compare skater(s) who are not competing in this event.

This thread will be moved to the Competition Forum approximately five days prior to the start of the event.

Thanks and enjoy!



Entries as of 1/14/19

 
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TT_Fin

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Roman Galay won Nationals in Finland and has now better SB than Valtter Virtanen. It depends on if he has got minimun TES from international competition, if he will be sent instead of Virtanen.
 

Nirti

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Virtanen is still eligible for Worlds, but not Galay. Good for him that he can do Euros, as I imagine that Virtanen will not stay indefinitely (he's the current elder of men figure skating!)
 

haribobo

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Nationals scores of possible entries (to be updated when actual entries list comes out) - listed ISU SB when Nationals scores N/A

MEN
Javier Fernandez SPN *no score 2018
Maxim Kovtun RUS 281
Mikhail Kolyada RUS 268
Alexander Samarin RUS 265
Kevin Aymoz FRA 262
Michal Brezina CZE 257 ISU SB
Alexander Majorov SWE 253
Moris Kvitelashvili GEO 248 ISU SB
Daniel Grassl ITA 246
Daniel Samohin ISR 243
Matteo Rizzo ITA 241
Alexei Bychenko ISR 237
Adam Siao Him Fa FRA 226
Deniss Vasiljevs LAT 221 ISU SB
Paul Fentz GER 211
Lukas Britschgi SUI 210
Slavik Hayrapetyan ARM 209 ISU SB
Irakli Maisuradze GEO 207 ISU SB
Matyas Belohradsky CZE 207
Graham Newberry GBR 200
Nikolaj Majorov SWE 196
Aleksandr Selevko EST 192
Luc Maierhofer AUT 192
Hector Alonso SPN 191
Roman Galay FIN 191
Vladimir Litvintsev AZE 188 ISU SB
Ivan Shmuratko UKR 186
Sondre Odvoll Boe NOR 179 ISU SB
Niki Obreikov BUL 179
Krzysztof Gala POL 173
Burak Demirboga TUR 170
 
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Men in order of ISU Season Best.
In () - other best only if no Season Best.
1 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP (314.93)
2 Mikhail KOLYADA RUS 274.37
3 Michal BREZINA CZE 257.98
4 Alexander SAMARIN RUS 248.78
5 Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO 248.58
6 Maxim KOVTUN RUS 247.55
7 Kevin AYMOZ FRA 231.16
8 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR 230.54
9 Daniel GRASSL ITA 230.50
10 Matteo RIZZO ITA 227.97
11 Alexander MAJOROV SWE 227.47
12 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 221.26
13 Paul FENTZ GER 220.57
14 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM 209.58
15 Irakli MAYSURADZE GEO 207.60
16 Adam SIAO HIM FA FRA 207.04
17 Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI 206.76
18 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 202.33
19 Luc MAIERHOFER AUT 198.29
20 Matyas BELOHRADSKY CZE 192.72
21 Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE 188.21
22 Aleksandr SELEVKO EST 186.09
23 Ivan SHMURATKO UKR 181.01
24 Davide LEWTON BRAIN MON 180.51
25 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE NOR 179.25
26 Nikolaj MAJOROV SWE 177.03
27 Yakau ZENKO BLR (176.89)
28 Burak DEMIRBOGA TUR 170.62
29 Graham NEWBERRY GBR 169.19
30 Roman GALAY FIN 167.23
31 Nicky OBREYKOV BUL 163.60
32 Thomas KENNES NED 161.20
33 Igor REZNICHENKO POL 160.51
34 Conor STAKELUM IRL 153.90
35 Hector ALONSO SERRANO ESP (152.35)
36 Michael NEUMAN SVK 146.03
37 Alexander BOROVOJ HUN 124.81

All in entry list of Entries/Results 21 Jan 2019.
 
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yume

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Though previous seasons there was not suspense at all for the win, this season there is a little bit. I think it won't be easy for Fernandez to win that 7th title. Not necessary because of others but because of himself. I doubt that he can delivers his previous contents with some weeks training. Though he can win by play it safe like one quad in each program. Judges will shower him with big GOEs and PCS. I only see a surprisingly clean Kolyada beat him.
I don't want to have too much faith in Kovtun.
 

rachno2

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I’m excited for this competition, even if the podium is a bit predictable. I think Javi will be just fine. I don’t expect him to be in his best form, but he knows how to put it together when it matters. Brezina and Kovtun have the momentum going for them, but I don’t know if they can challenge a solid Fernandez, especially with the PCS difference. We’ll see though.

What will be most interesting for me is to see who from the smaller feds will be a future contender, what with Javi’s retirement and Brezina’s (probable) exit soon as well. Aymoz, Rizzo, Grassl, Siao Him Fa, Vasiljevs, Kvitelashvili could all make a statement. I remember liking Hayrapetyan at Talinn as well. This is all assuming we don’t have the usual men’s splat fest, of course.

Will Rizzo debut his quad here, or was that more of a sneak peak for next season?
 

yume

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I'm mostly interested by the debuts of Grassl and Adam Siao Him Fa. In a couple of season maybe they will be podium contenders.
I wonder if Grassl will use the guns 4lz and 4lo. And more important, land them.
 
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Will be an interesting event. Hoping for Fernandez to have one good last championship. It will also be interesting to see if Alexander Majorov will make top 10 this year also. I also very curious of what will be the lowest points after the SP for qualifying for the FS. Last year it was 60.23. My wild guess that it maybe will be as high as 64-65. That is, if not too many has a melt down. I´m almost sure it will be higher then last year.
 

malya

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Why doesnt Spain have 3 spots when Javier won last year?

Spain had 2 skaters last year - to earn 3 spots their placements added together must be less than 13. Spain has no other guy that can get a 12th place yet

Ironically, if they had only sent Fernandez last, they would have earned 3 spots this year. Or was there a change in rules? I remember some people at the ISU congress were upset Javi kept earning 2 spots for spanish men at the Olympics...

For Europeans I'm not asking for much, just no splatfest for either Misha, Deniss or Javi. I'm worried all three could fall apart with their preparation and lead up to the competition :(
 

Andrea82

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Ironically, if they had only sent Fernandez last, they would have earned 3 spots this year. Or was there a change in rules? I remember some people at the ISU congress were upset Javi kept earning 2 spots for spanish men at the Olympics...

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yes, the rule change has been passed this summer for Olympics qualification. If a country qualify 2 or 3 spots and the second or third skater doesn't make the FS at previous Worlds, he/she/they (they can change skaters as long as it is not the one who have "won" the spots at Worlds) are forced to do Nebelhorn (or wherever the last Olympic qualification event will take place) in order to confirm the ticket for the country.

For Worlds and Euros it will stay the same as usual.
 

elektra blue

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Though previous seasons there was not suspense at all for the win, this season there is a little bit. I think it won't be easy for Fernandez to win that 7th title. Not necessary because of others but because of himself. I doubt that he can delivers his previous contents with some weeks training. Though he can win by play it safe like one quad in each program. Judges will shower him with big GOEs and PCS. I only see a surprisingly clean Kolyada beat him.
I don't want to have too much faith in Kovtun.

I’m excited for this competition, even if the podium is a bit predictable. I think Javi will be just fine. I don’t expect him to be in his best form, but he knows how to put it together when it matters. Brezina and Kovtun have the momentum going for them, but I don’t know if they can challenge a solid Fernandez, especially with the PCS difference. We’ll see though.

What will be most interesting for me is to see who from the smaller feds will be a future contender, what with Javi’s retirement and Brezina’s (probable) exit soon as well. Aymoz, Rizzo, Grassl, Siao Him Fa, Vasiljevs, Kvitelashvili could all make a statement. I remember liking Hayrapetyan at Talinn as well. This is all assuming we don’t have the usual men’s splat fest, of course.

Will Rizzo debut his quad here, or was that more of a sneak peak for next season?

i envy your confidence, girls :biggrin: i really can't predict this podium, or the top 5 :laugh: will fernandez be in shape enough to win? (i guess so, he want this to be his last glory)? will the russian boys keep it together? can we bet on brezina? so many questions...
 

Ice Dance

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LOL. And if the answer to all these questions is "no," who will be on the podium?

The men's event can be so much fun to watch, though, because you never know what is going to happen. I hope Javi had a good sendoff.
 

Vilord

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SOmeone mentioned that a list of SP SB could be interesting in suggesting who will make the final, so here it comes


1. Mikhail KOLYADA RUS 97.04
2. Michal BREZINA CZE 93.31
3. Alexander SAMARIN RUS 90.86
4. Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO 89.94
5. Matteo RIZZO ITA 85.51
6. Daniel SAMOHIN ISR 85.10
7. Alexander MAJOROV SWE 84.64
8. Daniel GRASSL ITA 83.42
9. Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 82.30
10. Kevin AYMOZ FRA 81.00
11. Maxim KOVTUN 80.91
12. Paul Fentz GER 78.28
13. Irakli MAYSURADZE GOE 74.54
14. Alexi BYCHENKO ISR 73.44
15. Ivan SHMURATKO UKR 72.08
16. Adam SIO HIM FA FRA 70.50
17. Matyas BELOHRADSKY CZE 69.39
18. Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM 69.00
19. Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI 68.40
20. Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE 67.96
21. Luc MAIERHOFER AUT 66.32
22. Roman GALAY FIN 65.63
23. Aleksandr SELEVKO EST 61.87
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24. Davide LEWTON BRAIN MON 61.34
25. Sondre ODVOLL BOE NOR 60.61
26. Nikolaj MAJOROV SWE 60.41
27. Michalen NEUMAN SVK 60.04
28. Igor REZNICHENKO POL 59.36
29. Graham NEWBERRY 58.31
30. Burak DEMIRBOGA TUR 55.54
31. Conor STAKELUM IRL 54.71
32. Thomas KENNES NED 52.34
33. Nicky OBREYKOV 49.24
34. Alexander BOROVOJ HUN 44.34
35. Javier FERNANDEZ ESP (no SB)
36. Hector ALONSO SERRANO ESP (no SB)
37. Yakau ZENKO BLR (no SB)

I put those without a SB at the bottom but I fully expect Fernandez to make the final (barring a complete disaster) so I made the cut of after no23. However between no 23 and no29 there is less than two point difference so any of them should have a good chance if they skate their best to make the final.
 
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SOmeone mentioned that a list of SP SB could be interesting in suggesting who will make the final, so here it comes


1. Mikhail KOLYADA RUS 97.04
2. Michal BREZINA CZE 93.31
3. Alexander SAMARIN RUS 90.86
4. Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO 89.94
5. Matteo RIZZO ITA 85.51
6. Daniel SAMOHIN ISR 85.10
7. Alexander MAJOROV SWE 84.64
8. Daniel GRASSL ITA 83.42
9. Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 82.30
10. Kevin AYMOZ FRA 81.00
11. Maxim KOVTUN 80.91
12. Paul Fentz GER 78.28
13. Irakli MAYSURADZE GOE 74.54
14. Alexi BYCHENKO ISR 73.44
15. Ivan SHMURATKO UKR 72.08
16. Adam SIO HIM FA FRA 70.50
17. Matyas BELOHRADSKY CZE 69.39
18. Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM 69.00
19. Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI 68.40
20. Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE 67.96
21. Luc MAIERHOFER AUT 66.32
22. Roman GALAY FIN 65.63
23. Aleksandr SELEVKO EST 61.87
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24. Davide LEWTON BRAIN MON 61.34
25. Sondre ODVOLL BOE NOR 60.61
26. Nikolaj MAJOROV SWE 60.41
27. Michalen NEUMAN SVK 60.04
28. Igor REZNICHENKO POL 59.36
29. Graham NEWBERRY 58.31
30. Burak DEMIRBOGA TUR 55.54
31. Conor STAKELUM IRL 54.71
32. Thomas KENNES NED 52.34
33. Nicky OBREYKOV 49.24
34. Alexander BOROVOJ HUN 44.34
35. Javier FERNANDEZ ESP (no SB)
36. Hector ALONSO SERRANO ESP (no SB)
37. Yakau ZENKO BLR (no SB)

I put those without a SB at the bottom but I fully expect Fernandez to make the final (barring a complete disaster) so I made the cut of after no23. However between no 23 and no29 there is less than two point difference so any of them should have a good chance if they skate their best to make the final.

Thanks for the list! This is the ISU score right? Sondre SB this season from other competitions is 67.98, his 3 last competitions is 67.98, 67-something and 65. I know the judges will be hard on the score, but I think 60 points is the minimum we can expect of him if he skates a clean and nice program. I´m hoping that he will be about 63 or above, expecting that they may be some small mistakes and lower PCS. If he skates really clean i´m pretty sure he will qualify for the FS. Or maybe not, maybe he needs someone of the above the list to make some mistakes.

Also, isn´t it 24 men going to the FS and not 23?:)

Never mind, I guess you took 23. because Javier ofc. will be one of the 24.
 

Vilord

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Thanks for the list! This is the ISU score right? Sondre SB this season from other competitions is 67.98, his 3 last competitions is 67.98, 67-something and 65. I know the judges will be hard on the score, but I think 60 points is the minimum we can expect of him if he skates a clean and nice program. I´m hoping that he will be about 63 or above, expecting that they may be some small mistakes and lower PCS. If he skates really clean i´m pretty sure he will qualify for the FS. Or maybe not, maybe he needs someone of the above the list to make some mistakes.

Also, isn´t it 24 men going to the FS and not 23?:)

Never mind, I guess you took 23. because Javier ofc. will be one of the 24.

Yes 24 men go through to the final and yes I assumed Fernandez who dont have a SB will be among them.
Yes this is the ISU scores I am sure that more skaters have better scores than what I wrote above but there was no way I was going to go through every competition this season for all skaters.

As I said I think all skaters down to about 29 have a fair chance to make the final since the SBs are so close
 
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Yes 24 men go through to the final and yes I assumed Fernandez who dont have a SB will be among them.
Yes this is the ISU scores I am sure that more skaters have better scores than what I wrote above but there was no way I was going to go through every competition this season for all skaters.

As I said I think all skaters down to about 29 have a fair chance to make the final since the SBs are so close

I do agree. It will be very hard fight like last Euros. The minimum score was 60-something last year, I guessing it will be higher this season. Maybe 63-65? It will of course depend on if the skates are clean or not :) I think we have to expect that maybe some of the debuts will have a hard time keeping the nerves in control. Also, knowing one has to fight to get to the final must also be a factor that can tribute to that the skaters get´s very nervous because they can´t make a lot of mistakes.

Almost just one week now and we will know a lot more about the outcome :)
 

Vilord

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I will be hoping that Sondre and the majorov brothers make the final but as any figure skating fan I will be happy if the men deliver clean skates and make it an exiting competition!
 
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