2019 European Championships: Ice Dance Pregame Chat

GS Forum Staff · Jan 12, 2018

2019 European Figure Skating Championships: Ice Dance

Jan 21-27, 2019
Minsk, Belarus

General constructive discussion including injuries, updates, program changes, withdrawals, substitutes, etc.

Please do not discuss/compare skater(s) who are not competing in this event.

This thread will be moved to the Competition Forum approximately five days prior to the start of the event.

Thanks and enjoy!

Entries as of 1/14/19

1	Anna KUBLIKOVA / Yuri HULITSKI	BLR
	Emiliya KALEHANOVA / Uladzislau PALKHOUSKI	BLR	SUB
2	Teodora MARKOVA / Simon DAZE	BUL
3	Katerina BUNINA / German FROLOV	EST
4	Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS	FIN
5	Adelina GALYAVIEVA / Louis THAURON	FRA
6	Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC	FRA
7	Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON	FRA
	Julia WAGRET / Pierre SOUQUET	FRA	SUB
8	Shari KOCH / Christian NÜCHTERN	GER
	Katharina MÜLLER / Tim DIECK	GER	SUB
	Jennifer URBAN / Benjamin STEFFAN	GER	SUB
9	Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON	GBR
10	Robynne TWEEDALE / Joseph BUCKLAND	GBR
11	Anna YANOVSKAYA / Adam LUKACS	HUN
	Emily MONAGHAN / Ilias FOURATI	HUN	SUB
12	Shira ICHILOV / Vadim DAVIDOVICH	ISR
13	Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI	ITA
14	Carolina MOSCHENI / Andrea FABBRI	ITA
15	Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI	ITA
	Chiara CALDERONE / Pietro PAPETTI	ITA	SUB
16	Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS	LTU
17	Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV	POL
18	Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Jeremie FLEMIN	POL
19	Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN	RUS
20	Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV	RUS
21	Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN	RUS
	Betina POPOVA / Sergey MOZGOV	RUS	SUB
	Anastasia SKOPTCOVA / Kirill ALESHIN	RUS	SUB
	Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO	RUS	SUB
22	Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN	ESP
23	Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZ	ESP
24	Victoria MANNI / Carlo ROETHLISBERGER	SUI
25	Darya POPOVA / Volodymyr BYELIKOV	UKR
	Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN	UKR	SUB
	Yuliia ZHATA / Yan LUKOUSKI	UKR	SUB

GoneWithTheWind · Jan 2, 2019

And for the Ice Dance, results from Nationals first, ISU SBs in brackets:

Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 220.95 (216.78)
Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS 212.32 (201.37)
Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS 208.49 (200.78)
Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 206.43 (198.65)
Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 178.95 (180.32)
Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZ ESP 178.68 (180.07)
Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL 171.12 (178.43)
Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 180.16 (174.42)
Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 181.89 (171.20)
Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN RUS 179.21 (168.31)
Shari KOCH / Christian NÜCHTERN GER 181.72 (165.31)
Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS FIN N/A (163.49)
Robynne TWEEDALE / Joseph BUCKLAND GBR 168.04 (162.50)
Anna YANOVSKAYA / Adam LUKACS HUN 165.43 (161.40)
Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 160.85 (159.21)
Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU N/A (158.03)
Darya POPOVA / Volodymyr BYELIKOV UKR N/A (154.42)
Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Jeremie FLEMIN POL 146.36 (152.49)
Adelina GALYAVIEVA / Louis THAURON FRA 154.89 (149.69)
Carolina MOSCHENI / Andrea FABBRI ITA 154.29 (139.79)
Victoria MANNI / Carlo RÖTHLISBERGER SUI N/A (138.81)
Shira ICHILOV / Vadim DAVIDOVICH ISR N/A (138.45)
Anna KUBLIKOVA / Yuri HULITSKI BLR N/A (137.98)
Katerina BUNINA / German FROLOV EST N/A (132.52)
Teodora MARKOVA / Simon DAZE BUL N/A (117.84)
Nicole KELLY / Berk AKALIN TUR N/A (118.60)

AlexRus · Jan 15, 2019

Dance in order of ISU Season Best.
1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 216.78
2 Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS 201.37
3 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS 200.78
4 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 198.65
5 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 180.32
6 Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZ ESP 180.07
7 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV POL 178.43
8 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 177.20
9 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 174.42
10 Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN RUS 168.31
11 Shari KOCH / Christian NÜCHTERN GER 165.31
12 Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS FIN 163.49
13 Robynne TWEEDALE / Joseph BUCKLAND GBR 162.50
14 Anna YANOVSKAYA / Adam LUKACS HUN 161.40
15 Jasmine TESSARI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 159.21
16 Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU 158.03
17 Darya POPOVA / Volodymyr BYELIKOV UKR 154.42
18 Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Jeremie FLEMIN POL 152.49
19 Adelina GALYAVIEVA / Louis THAURON FRA 149.69
20 Carolina MOSCHENI / Andrea FABBRI ITA 139.79
21 Shira ICHILOV / Vadim DAVIDOVICH ISR 139.45
22 Victoria MANNI / Carlo ROETHLISBERGER SUI 138.81
23 Anna KUBLIKOVA / Yuri HULITSKI BLR 137.98
24 Katerina BUNINA / German FROLOV EST 132.52
25 Teodora MARKOVA / Simon DAZE BUL 117.84

As in entry list of Entries/Results 21 Jan 2019.

1904sk8 · Jan 15, 2019

Im curious who is going with the Montreal teams and how they are preparing for Europeans since Marie-France is at Canadian Nationals now and I know US Championships are the same week as Euros. They do have at least 5 teams going to Euros that I know off the top of my head.

Ice Dance · Jan 15, 2019

I think Patrice is the one certified to coach at the U.S. Championships so I would assume Marie-France & Romain will be the ones we see at Europeans.

pearly · Jan 15, 2019

6 Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZ ESP 180.07
9 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 174.42

Wow, is this really so?

DSQ · Jan 15, 2019

pearly said:
6 Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZ ESP 180.07
9 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 174.42

Wow, is this really so?

I guess this is explains why Spain is waiting until Euros are over to make their decision on Worlds.

pearly · Jan 15, 2019

DSQ said:
I guess this is explains why Spain is waiting until Euros are over to make their decision on Worlds.

Nah, I think it's definitely wise to wait in their case. Scores from different competitions don't reveal much.

yume · Jan 15, 2019

IMO, the only suspense there is for the third place. Can Guignard/Fabbri beat a clean Stepanova/Bukin?
At this rate, P/C can win with two falls. S/K have their silver with no costly mistakes.

SnowWhite · Jan 15, 2019

1904sk8 said:
Im curious who is going with the Montreal teams and how they are preparing for Europeans since Marie-France is at Canadian Nationals now and I know US Championships are the same week as Euros. They do have at least 5 teams going to Euros that I know off the top of my head.

Marie-France is at Canadians with Benjamin Brisebois with 6 teams. There are four other Gadbois coaches there to get teams ready for Euros and US Nats (Romain, Patrice, Pascal Denis and Josée Piché). Patrice will go to US Nationals, like Ice Dance said. Then Romain will go to Euros since he normally goes with P/C, and maybe Pascal Denis too - he goes to competitions with the lower ranked teams a lot (like Markova/Daze). Marie-France probably won't go to Euros.

litenkyckling · Jan 15, 2019

My main hope for Euros is that F/G have a great RD (and FD, obviously) and get themselves into the top 10 :pray:

1904sk8 · Jan 15, 2019

SnowWhite said:
Marie-France is at Canadians with Benjamin Brisebois with 6 teams. There are four other Gadbois coaches there to get teams ready for Euros and US Nats (Romain, Patrice, Pascal Denis and Josée Piché). Patrice will go to US Nationals, like Ice Dance said. Then Romain will go to Euros since he normally goes with P/C, and maybe Pascal Denis too - he goes to competitions with the lower ranked teams a lot (like Markova/Daze). Marie-France probably won't go to Euros.

Thank you so much. I know Marie-France usually goes to Euros but it seems like they always want to have one of the three main coaches back in Montreal with the other teams. Of course nothing is certain yet.

Ice Dance · Jan 15, 2019

pearly said:
6 Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZ ESP 180.07
9 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 174.42

Wow, is this really so?

It is, but I think if you go back and watch Smart & Diaz's FD performance from Finlandia, you'll think they were overscored. Lift was a hot mess.

Hurtado & Khaliavin, meanwhile, have been giving up points in the RD all season.

S&D have the current higher SD in the RD. H&K have the current higher SD in the FD.

Both teams botched a set of twizzles at Nationals.

Fortunately, we will get a real international head-to-head picture at Europeans. The Spanish Fed has not confirmed their criteria for deciding the World team. It could be Euros. During Nationals, the commentator said he thought it would be a combination of the scores from Euros and Nationals. Nationals scores were very close so either way, the results at Europeans will probably be the determining factor.

SnowWhite · Jan 15, 2019

Ice Dance said:
It is, but I think if you go back and watch Smart & Diaz's performance from Finlandia, you'll think they were overscored. Lift was a hot mess.

Hurtado & Khaliavin, meanwhile, have been giving up points in the RD all season.

Both teams botched a set of twizzles at Nationals.

Fortunately, we will get a real international head-to-head picture at Europeans. The Spanish Fed has not confirmed their criteria for deciding the World team. It could be Euros. During Nationals, the commentator said he thought it would be a combination of the scores from Euros and Nationals. Nationals scores were very close so either way, the results at Europeans will probably be the determining factor.

Smart/Diaz did also get 176 something at Skate Canada, which is higher than anything H/K have got this season. Not saying that means they'll be ahead or anything, but it's not just the Finlandia score.

SnowWhite · Jan 15, 2019

1904sk8 said:
Thank you so much. I know Marie-France usually goes to Euros but it seems like they always want to have one of the three main coaches back in Montreal with the other teams. Of course nothing is certain yet.

I might be wrong and she could go to Euros, but I think Romain will go for sure, and with Patch at US Nats, I doubt they'd want all three of the top coaches gone at once for ~ a week.

Ice Dance · Jan 15, 2019

176 would have left the two Spanish teams back to back on the overall SB list.

lauravvv · Jan 16, 2019

litenkyckling said:
My main hope for Euros is that F/G have a great RD (and FD, obviously) and get themselves into the top 10

As you can see, they are top 10 on the SB list even with not so great RD outings

. And, if no huge mistakes happen, they should be top 10 at Europeans too, as I don't see anyone outside of that SB top 10 beating them if they have two good skates. But, of course, nothing is completely certain.

DSQ · Jan 16, 2019

pearly said:
Nah, I think it's definitely wise to wait in their case. Scores from different competitions don't reveal much.

True

SnowWhite said:
Marie-France is at Canadians with Benjamin Brisebois with 6 teams. There are four other Gadbois coaches there to get teams ready for Euros and US Nats (Romain, Patrice, Pascal Denis and Josée Piché). Patrice will go to US Nationals, like Ice Dance said. Then Romain will go to Euros since he normally goes with P/C, and maybe Pascal Denis too - he goes to competitions with the lower ranked teams a lot (like Markova/Daze). Marie-France probably won't go to Euros.

Romain was at the British Nationals with Fear and Gibson and he seems to be their, and Papadakis and Cizeron’s, main coach. This is an important competition for both teams so I agree I’m willing to bet he’ll be the main Gadbois coach there.

cathlen · Jan 21, 2019

Ice Dance will be definitely the best event at Euros quality wise this year. And there are so many possibilities podium wise, my head hurts. Also pretty sure that for Europeans Romain will travel.

LadyB · Jan 21, 2019

I'm still completely spaced out from the WeaPo/P&P duel :drama:

...and I can't wait for Euros, with my other faves. I'll take P/C as the given champions, but anything can happen behind them. I personally shout for SinKats and E/B, but I have a lot of time for H/K and S/B as well. I'm also looking forward to G/F, they've been in pretty good shape all season. It'll be a quite exciting event! :popcorn:

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