Because Ice Dance usually is more clean, the lower negative GOE doesn’t really get used anyway... so it makes some sense, but not that much sense.
Ice Dance Technical Meeting (requirements for 2019-20)
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Because Ice Dance usually is more clean, the lower negative GOE doesn’t really get used anyway... so it makes some sense, but not that much sense.
If you look at the scoring in the FS, only 4 teams got any marks with negative GOE. for 3 of those, it was just one or two -1's on an element that overall had positive GOE, and the 4th team had a fall on their stepseq (got a -4, a -2, and the rest -3) plus wonky twizzles (GOE 0 to -2)
If you look at the SP, some of the lower level teams got negative GOE. For all teams except one, it was -1 or -2, and that one exception was a set of botched twizzles that ended up being base level for the man (GOE -2 to -4).
I don't even know what you'd have to do to get a -5 in dance... probably have one partner fall and not complete the element on OF stepseq or twizzles, or drop the lady on a lift, but none of these are common occurrences
If you look at the top teams, almost all their GOEs are 3, 4, 5, with the occasional 2 by one judge, 0-2 on wobbly elements (i.e. Weaver's twizzles in the FD), and slightly more 2s on some elements for the teams on the cusp of the top (e.g. G/P)
The issue isn't with GOE, I'd be fine with the expansion. But the real issue is that the BV's of the various levels aren't scaled properly relative to GOE (not even going to mention the ridiculously lenient level calling in the RD...)
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Do you guys think Bollywood is allowed? I would be cool to have something not in English.
We're getting excited by the choices but realistically I think it's going to be the same as usual
I looked quickly at the top teams in 2013-2014 and there were already so many musicals used when the Finnstep was the pattern of the SD :
- Davis/White : My fair lady
- Virtue/Moir : Not really "Musical" based but Cheek to Cheek could be conspired from a musical?
- Cappellini/Lanotte : 42nd Street
- Weaver/Poje : 42nd Street
- Pechalat/Bourzat : Big Spender from "Sweet Charity" then changed to. "Roxie" from Chicago
- Ilinykh/Katsalapov : Bei Mir Bistu Shein from "I Would If I Could"
- Chock/Bates: Annie Get Your Gun
- Papadakis/Cizeron: Burlesque
- Guignard/Fabbri : "Cabaret" and "Fosse"
We're getting excited by the choices but realistically I think it's going to be the same as usual
I looked quickly at the top teams in 2013-2014 and there were already so many musicals used when the Finnstep was the pattern of the SD :
- Davis/White : My fair lady
- Virtue/Moir : Not really "Musical" based but Cheek to Cheek could be conspired from a musical?
- Cappellini/Lanotte : 42nd Street
- Weaver/Poje : 42nd Street
- Pechalat/Bourzat : Big Spender from "Sweet Charity" then changed to. "Roxie" from Chicago
- Ilinykh/Katsalapov : Bei Mir Bistu Shein from "I Would If I Could"
- Chock/Bates: Annie Get Your Gun
- Papadakis/Cizeron: Burlesque
- Guignard/Fabbri : "Cabaret" and "Fosse"
The difference between levels is actually only 0.5 now
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That would be awesome if they could get it to fit the BMP.
And for that I thank them with all my heart.
"ALL selected music should be recognized as one from the following Rhythms: Quickstep, Blues, March, Polka, Foxtrot, Swing, Charleston, Waltz."
That said, we did have Blues and Swing only two years ago, but mixed with hip hop.
And I worry every other program will be a My Fair Lady or Fledermaus.
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I'm no expert on rhythms but I'd think you could get a few songs from the Cole Porter catalogue (Anything Goes, Kiss Me Kate, etc) to fit Quickstep, Swing or Charleston.
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I hope a team will use Hamilton :agree:
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I was just thinking about that last night - you could probably set a Finnstep to Helpless, at minimum.
This needs to be fixed. And fixed now.
I propose the following music be used by all teams next season: https://vimeo.com/85867727
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Kaitlin Hawayek looks a bit like Phillipa Soo, so maybe that can be their RD.
I was thinking about Hamilton too. There is a song, "Burn", where Anjelica laments the philandering of her husband. It's soulful but has some dramatic changes in tempo and feeling.
I like Latin dances but after 2 years I won't miss all the red and black!
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Eliza, not Angelica.
I'm not sure Burn fits any of the required tempos, though. It's in 6/8 time, so it won't work for a waltz.
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I noticed that when I watched the meeting and then forgot to say anything! Yes please to some ladies in nice waistcoat-and-trouser combos - we're going to need some variation from flapper frocks for sure!
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