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Novice level for a meaningless TV show? Let's keep Averbukh there.
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OT, but in this interview Daniil mentioned that he creates about 50 competitive programs each season (that's from almost 2 seasons ago, so maybe something has changed).
http://www.absoluteskating.com/index.php?cat=interviews&id=2018gleichengauz
http://www.absoluteskating.com/index.php?cat=interviews&id=2018gleichengauz
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I think they have another (young and handsome) guy who does choreography work. He can be spotted with Danil in juniors kiss&cry segments 
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Doesn’t Rozanov create some of the programs for the Novice and below skaters? I read that somewhere a while back but don’t remember where so it might not be true. That would make sense if he is the one with them most of the time?
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There are 2 things. One is like Alexz said, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. And it ain't broken at all. The other one is money. It is natural if Eteri wants to keep it in house especially for her top students where the price tag is supposedly the highest.
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I think that‘s a broad generalization and I don‘t think it‘s true for that matter either. So, Daniil and Eteri are the only ones who can have lots of transitions in their programs? Did Medvedeva ever have empty programs with Averbukh? Was her SP that Zhulin made for her empty? I don‘t think so. And were those programs winning? Yes. Three and a half seasons in a row, in fact, if you include the one in juniors. They were breaking World Records left and right.
I’m not saying I‘m unhappy with the situation as it is but what‘s so bad about at least thinking about this? 18 programs in one season is a lot already and that‘s just their core skaters and excludes many of the others that are in need of getting a program.
And you seriously think Eteri wouldn‘t have a look at the programs even if others choreographed it? Really? She’s a perfectionist and if she felt there was a lack of transitions, it would be the first thing she made sure to change.
And Med‘s programs were empty because David Wilson was the choreographer and he‘s a bit old-fashioned but mainly because she was reworking her jump technique and had problems with consistency as it was. Misha Ge‘s SP was fine, she had a hard transition into the 3Lo, the one she always did. It‘s not like these choreographers are so bad they couldn‘t make a program with transitions, it‘s that they adapt it to the needs of a skater and Zhenya last year was in an adjustment period where she simply couldn‘t add all these transitions to her programs. Let‘s see how it will change this year with SLB and Averbukh.
I'm sorry I'm not familliar with all the details but what is so wrong with Averbukh? I love transitions packed programs, and Eteri/Daniil could work with him to provide a highly difficult one that we expect from this group. I watched ice age kids on youtube and all Averbukh's kids had cool, original moves, this is why I proposed him, not because of his work with Yulia and Evgenia. I repet I don't want simplified programs in term of transitions. But the team could use let's say Averbukh's ideea and "complicate" around it
It's Averbukh with Eteri and Daniil, not him alone. My only worry is that this team has enough on its plate.
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I do not like all these conversations with tips and wishes for coaches and athletes, so I do not participate. I want to note only that the Eteri team is a young team of like-minded people , and if Averbukh or someone else is not included in this circle, they should not be there, and I hope that they will not.
Just found this at Kamila's fangroup:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxX0iw9HBv-/
I'm confused now, will we have two Cleopatras?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxX0iw9HBv-/
I'm confused now, will we have two Cleopatras?
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Just found this at Kamila's fangroup:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxX0iw9HBv-/
I'm confused now, will we have two Cleopatras?
No, this particular Kamila fan page just likes to post a lot of Kamila/Alina comparisons.
It seems to be true, especially after this one:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz4uf7qHs3z/
But they posted Cleopatra's image 8 weeks ago! They knows a lot more than we do...
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Oh didn't realize that. Maybe they do know something, although this same fanpage was the one that said Alyona and Stanislava would be at the Japan Open.
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I sometimes get confused with all these initials, acronyms and rules on Goldenskate- I thought we weren't suppose to use acronyms, initials but what was WE again? I do think Eteri's group needs to be careful that they don't get stagnant which or spread themselves too think which is which is why I think some other ideas from other artists can be helpful.
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W.E. is the name of the movie the music for Evgenia's 2015 FS is from. W.E. is actually the full name of the movie
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W.E. is not an acronym, it is the name of a movie. The soundtrack is used rather often for skating
As in American pair Cain/LeDuc used WE for their LP last year.
I agree wholeheartedly about using initials for pairs and ice dance as confusing and not a time shortener at all, but that should not be an issue in the Russian Ladies thread.
ETA: Luna beat me to it
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I’m not sure what you’re saying?
are you saying that in your opinion all of Averbukh’s choreo has been bad, including for the year of the Sochi Olympics, and did he improve just last season?
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EG will work with Ilya in the future if and ehen she needs him because Danil cannot choreograph programs for everyone at Sambo-70.
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That was the general opinion in this forum, yes, especially around the time Evgenia was winning everything. People hated the miming he incorporated in the programs. I personally always liked his choreography, even if I acknowledge that he can be too proud and sometimes overdoes it with voice overs, like when he insisted on putting them on Zhenya‘s 2016-17 FS even though the story would have been perfectly understandable even without them. But he made Evgenia‘s W.E. and Yulia‘s Schindler‘s List, which I find to be masterpieces. So, I wouldn‘t say he‘s a bad choreographer but again, that‘s probably subjective to a degree too.
