You just have to love Liza, brushing the whole jetlag thing away with "if your an athlete you just have to pack and go".
Still, it was a bad move going to Finlandia...
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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You just have to love Liza, brushing the whole jetlag thing away with "if your an athlete you just have to pack and go".
Still, it was a bad move going to Finlandia...
Then she needs to make sure she communicates with her coach that perhaps they need to change strategy and remove 2-3 of the minor competitions that she's doing, but my comment that you quoted is accurate - the multiple minor competitions prior to her first GP event is her normal competition schedule for the last few years.
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I'm too lazy to look up all the dates, but how many days were there between her challengers and GP skates in the past? Because she really only had about 5 and half days between her last skate in Finland and her first skate at SA. And in between this time she had to travel halfway around the world and spent a whole day traveling. Looking online, most flights from Helsinki to Las Vegas involve 15-18 hours of traveling since she most likely had at least one connection.
To me its not about doing too many challengers. If she only competed in Finland and then SA its still problematic. Its about her choice of challenger so close to a GP. I think team Mishin may have underestimated the travel to Las Vegas as the city is essentially on the west coast.
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Firstly, every year everything it more complicate (age). Secondly, at this time there was very little period between competitions - in last year Finlandia Trophy was at 5-7 October and SC at 26-28 October - that's a huge difference, three weeks it's not a five-six days. Thirdly, this time there was a very long flight - in total it was about 24 hours, Liza posted on Instagram (in historis) her photo in hotel - she was terribly pale and exhausted. Fourth, at this time in Finlandia there was a serious, principled competition with Kostornaya, it also takes more mental strength.
In total, it was a perfect storm for Liza, Mishin definitely made a serious mistake with this crazy, unreasonable race.
The only year that is similar is her world champion season 2014-2015 when Cup of Nice was one week before Skate America, which was the only competition she didn't win that season (2nd). In addition, she did Finlandia a week befor CoN so there was three consecutive weeks of competition. Cup of Nice and Skate America was also her lowest scoring events that season. So she has done this before and obviously she didn't learn from her mistake.
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What struck me most was when Mariya told she feared Russian Nationals. Like no other competition, probably all the skaters do.
She said your season is over if you don't meet expectations at Nats.
Those that did get the assignments to Euros and Worlds, etc., the others can start preparing themselves for the next season (or retirement?)
So essentially the skaters prepare for just one event and it's 'do or die', it probably also separates the fighters from the rest, because the overall level is so high.
Yes it has to be said, judges aren't helping her at all with the inconsistency on the protocols and i bet also during the warmups, those sessions where judges give feedbacks to the skater, i guess they aren't giving them much to Liza or the wrong suggestions.
At one event she gets flip edge calls 2 times, suggesting she should change the combo, but then at all the other events she never got those calls suggesting that yes she should stick to the flip-toe anyway.
For me she should have not changed the combo anyway, because the Finlandia Trophy judging was very unusual, not at all similar to what she tends to get at other event, so for one edge call you get at one event, at all the others you have a combo with higher base value, and most importantly this is the combo she has been training in the summer, you don't wanna throw all that time practicing it in the trash can.
But i can see why they did it, after Finlandia everyone made a big deal about it "it was a clear edge issue!!", acting like she has been doing flip wrong all her career when it's not true, so yeah.
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Anna's Gala program from Las Vegas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTL3BnZDxsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTL3BnZDxsY
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It was nice. Anna skating in full kimono before throwing it away and going bad Samurai ...
Fatigue set in probably, because she fell on her combination.
She's probably back in Moscow by now.
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if Maria as good as she was feared Russian Nationals 20 plus years ago can you imagine now the top ladies feel today with the competition they have today which is probably 20 times stronger than what Maria had at Rusnats? It is incredible.
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Exactly. Mariya explained sometime later it all depends on the psychological readiness of the competitors in the National Championships.
She is a specialist now, (judge or caller), and even fears having to judge at Nationals because of the responsibility to select the three best skaters for the World Championships to follow, so much depends on accurate judging.
A really nice interview, girls amongst themselves and lots of laughs.
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Maria was a favorite of mine and she knows what these Russian girls are going through. It's interesting to read her comments. Alina had the burn on her ankle last Nationals I felt a lot of pressure in the free skate and it showed. We will see if the pressure at Rusnats this year negatively affects any of the top ladies. They are so tough.
Honest to God I don't really know what to say about this. Veronika is already a rising star and so talented and pulling off a quad in practice like it was a triple jump is mind blowing. But she is only 11 and we don't know what mountains she will have to climb in the near or distant future. All the best to her of course. Everyone else too because the sport is so tough.
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Well I can't say I'm surprised. It looks pretty good too! Zhilina vs. Akatieva in a couple years is going to be amazing... With some Berestovskaia and Samodelkina in there too.
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Trusova Mk II in the making. But of course still a long way to go until even being able to compete in the juniors. Rozanov is working hard with his charges, and the girls like to work hard too.
Learn the skill when you're young and it will never really leave you, you just need to maintain it.
Now we wait for Adeliya Petrosyan to land her first quads successfully, for Petrosyan is JGP eligible next season, while Akat'yeva is not ....
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I'm not sure this is more than a hunch, but I much prefer Akatieva (in general and also in jumping) to Zhilina. Well, they are both young; I wish them both the fortitude to keep developing and stay healthy, motivated, and fulfilled! Truly incredible work so far!
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They will meet in 3 weeks here. https://sportvokrug.ru/competitions/6062/participants/
+ many other talented young girls.
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I am sort of in this with you. Though it is impossible to gauge the character of a child you've never met in person and only seen on screen, from Ice Age, Kids, I got the impression Veronika is a bit self entitled or full of herself. She is from a normal family, has brothers to quarrel and fight with, but somehow her behaviour in the show (off ice that is) and in its short feature clips didn't strike me as completely natural for a 10 year old. She could be fooling all of us, but my impression was that this is a child with a character that will be tough to deal with when she gets older.
And talent alone will only get you this far in Khrustalniy, your attitude to work and your trainers is valued far higher.
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someone worried about Camila Valieva? there she is behind https://www.instagram.com/p/B37cRrpoK-E/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
