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Flat footed skater, Axel difficulty

Carloucarla

Rinkside
Joined
Apr 21, 2019
Hi everyone! I’m new to the forum! So, I am a figure skater, I have all my single jumps except the axel and a bit of trouble with the lutz sometimes. I have the edea chorus boot as well as the John Wilson coronation ace blade. I recently found out that I have flat feet. I used to have custom adjusted edea motivo skates. I don’t have custom insoles in my skates though I have shock absorber insoles. I think I need insoles since I have a lot of trouble with getting in the outside edge especially for the Axel. I also work on double sals and loops. I have the axel’s rotation on the double loop since it is easier to go on the outside edge! I am scared to get insoles as it may change the way I skate and make it worse. Can someone help?
 

Nimyue

On the Ice
Joined
May 15, 2018
Hi everyone! I’m new to the forum! So, I am a figure skater, I have all my single jumps except the axel and a bit of trouble with the lutz sometimes. I have the edea chorus boot as well as the John Wilson coronation ace blade. I recently found out that I have flat feet. I used to have custom adjusted edea motivo skates. I don’t have custom insoles in my skates though I have shock absorber insoles. I think I need insoles since I have a lot of trouble with getting in the outside edge especially for the Axel. I also work on double sals and loops. I have the axel’s rotation on the double loop since it is easier to go on the outside edge! I am scared to get insoles as it may change the way I skate and make it worse. Can someone help?

I have a similar issue with my feet. First, for figure skates arch cookies tend to work better than insoles that are made for running shoes etc. You can buy them on amazon.

If that doesn't fully fix it, your blade probably needs to be moved.
 

Carloucarla

Rinkside
Joined
Apr 21, 2019
I have a similar issue with my feet. First, for figure skates arch cookies tend to work better than insoles that are made for running shoes etc. You can buy them on amazon.

If that doesn't fully fix it, your blade probably needs to be moved.

Well when I remove my skates my feet are swollen, just after a few minutes on the ice my feet are hurting really bad.
My skates are too big but the size in between is too small. I wonder what I should do?
 

Tavi...

Record Breaker
Joined
Feb 10, 2014
Well when I remove my skates my feet are swollen, just after a few minutes on the ice my feet are hurting really bad.
My skates are too big but the size in between is too small. I wonder what I should do?


That’s not normal. If they’re new boots go back to the fitter and explain the problems with swelling and pain and ask whether adjustments can be made to your boots to correct the problem. You can also ask what they suggest regarding your flat feet. If the boots aren’t new and the problems have continued for awhile, I would see a foot doctor.

I know that in some places you may be limited in your choice of brands and access to a good fitter , but if the boots you’re in are too big and the next size down is too small, it sounds like you’re in the wrong boot or you were poorly fit.
 

Carloucarla

Rinkside
Joined
Apr 21, 2019
That’s not normal. If they’re new boots go back to the fitter and explain the problems with swelling and pain and ask whether adjustments can be made to your boots to correct the problem. You can also ask what they suggest regarding your flat feet. If the boots aren’t new and the problems have continued for awhile, I would see a foot doctor.

I know that in some places you may be limited in your choice of brands and access to a good fitter , but if the boots you’re in are too big and the next size down is too small, it sounds like you’re in the wrong boot or you were poorly fit.

I have had these boots for over a year now. I went to see a podiatrist, but she knew nothing about figure skating. I explained my pain etc... She gave me orthotics for normal walking shoes, but she can't do much about figur stating.

I later told her that I had more trouble with the outside edges since I had the insoles, and she said: "It's normal, I wanted your feet to have a normal position, the outside edge position isn't good for your feet "etc...
She didn't tell me it would affect my skating :(
She also is really annoying as she tells me to quit skating, which isn't something I would do!
 

Ic3Rabbit

Former Elite, now Pro. ⛸️
Record Breaker
Joined
Jan 9, 2017
Country
Olympics
I have had these boots for over a year now. I went to see a podiatrist, but she knew nothing about figure skating. I explained my pain etc... She gave me orthotics for normal walking shoes, but she can't do much about figur stating.

I later told her that I had more trouble with the outside edges since I had the insoles, and she said: "It's normal, I wanted your feet to have a normal position, the outside edge position isn't good for your feet "etc...
She didn't tell me it would affect my skating :(
She also is really annoying as she tells me to quit skating, which isn't something I would do!

There are insoles that can be given and even custom made for your boots for this issue.
 

Tavi...

Record Breaker
Joined
Feb 10, 2014
I have had these boots for over a year now. I went to see a podiatrist, but she knew nothing about figure skating. I explained my pain etc... She gave me orthotics for normal walking shoes, but she can't do much about figur stating.

I later told her that I had more trouble with the outside edges since I had the insoles, and she said: "It's normal, I wanted your feet to have a normal position, the outside edge position isn't good for your feet "etc...
She didn't tell me it would affect my skating :(
She also is really annoying as she tells me to quit skating, which isn't something I would do!

Maybe you should find another doctor, then.
 

tstop4me

Final Flight
Joined
Oct 2, 2015
Country
United-States
Okay, thanks! Should I need to see a specific ice skating podiatrist ,or a normal podiatrist could do the job?
Orthotics need to be tailored (in terms of materials and design) for a specific task. I also have flat feet. I have one pair of orthotics for walking shoes, and a different pair for running shoes. These were prescribed by a podiatrist and work well; but he doesn't have any experience with figure skates. You need to find a podiatrist with specific experience in prescribing orthotics for figure skates, because they are substantially different from those for walking, running, or other athletic shoes. As a caveat, though, these specialists don't appear to be to common and may be hard to find; so be sure to ask! I ending up piecing together my own.
 

Carloucarla

Rinkside
Joined
Apr 21, 2019
Orthotics need to be tailored (in terms of materials and design) for a specific task. I also have flat feet. I have one pair of orthotics for walking shoes, and a different pair for running shoes. These were prescribed by a podiatrist and work well; but he doesn't have any experience with figure skates. You need to find a podiatrist with specific experience in prescribing orthotics for figure skates, because they are substantially different from those for walking, running, or other athletic shoes. As a caveat, though, these specialists don't appear to be to common and may be hard to find; so be sure to ask! I ending up piecing together my own.

Okay cool! Thanks for the help! I’ll check and try to find some specialists near I live
 
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