2019-20 U.S. Ladies Figure Skating

hippomoomin · Jan 19, 2020

It may have something to do with the notion that figure skating is a more of a "feminine" sport (vs. masculine sport like hockey and football), and when people think of figure skating, they think of pretty ballerina.
Many people don't consider figure skating a sport, because of the artistic aspect and subjective scoring.
In addition, the majority of figure skating fans especially those attend competitions are females. It is naturally easier for ladies to appreciate ladies.

moonvine said:
Based on attendance at figure skating events, I must disagree. Ladies is the one with the best attendance. I still don’t understand how they draw more than the men. But they do.

figurefan0726 · Jan 19, 2020

does anyone know if a live scoring page will be available again for nationals? not the ones with the scores and the protocols, but the one where it shows the elements being scored in real time. i remember that they did that for the 2017 and 2018 nationals, but not last year

Greengemmonster · Jan 19, 2020

Thanks for the summary Natsulian! It's great to have all the information in one concise post.

Plus I had no idea of their rankings so it's good to finally know

princessalica · Jan 19, 2020

figurefan0726 said:
does anyone know if a live scoring page will be available again for nationals? not the ones with the scores and the protocols, but the one where it shows the elements being scored in real time. i remember that they did that for the 2017 and 2018 nationals, but not last year

I hope so. I was disappointed that they didn’t offer that last year.

ribbit · Jan 19, 2020

natsulian said:
A lot of people don’t look at the scores or standings regularly and sometimes don’t know so I wanted to compile everything in one spot. Plus, it’s a good way to look, statistically speaking, at where our ladies stand half way through the season.

Add me to the list of folks who appreciate your taking the time and trouble to compile these statistics and find it interesting to look at this halfway-point snapshot! :thank:

natsulian · Jan 20, 2020

Recent article on Alysa Liu and the pressure (or the lack thereof) of being a defending champion written by Phil Hersh: https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2020...l-championship/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Alysa also talks about the possibility of doing two 4Lz and one 4S next season.

dancelion21 · Jan 20, 2020

natsulian said:
Recent article on Alysa Liu and the pressure (or the lack thereof) of being a defending champion written by Phil Hersh: https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2020...l-championship/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Alysa also talks about the possibility of doing two 4Lz and one 4S next season.

Such a wonderful article that gives great insight into Alysa. I hope that she doesn't push herself too much with the quad jumps and that she's focusing on her skating skills and performance. Her technical arsenal is already quite strong, but as of now, she's relying heavily on the base value of the jumps since she's been getting middling GOE. I think that strengthening her current jumps and working on performance would do more good than trying to add even more quads. Still, I look forward to seeing her perform at Nationals, and it's awesome to see how much she enjoys skating.

TontoK · Jan 20, 2020

dancelion21 said:
Such a wonderful article that gives great insight into Alysa. I hope that she doesn't push herself too much with the quad jumps and that she's focusing on her skating skills and performance. Her technical arsenal is already quite strong, but as of now, she's relying heavily on the base value of the jumps since she's been getting middling GOE. I think that strengthening her current jumps and working on performance would do more good than trying to add even more quads. Still, I look forward to seeing her perform at Nationals, and it's awesome to see how much she enjoys skating.

Granted I don't follow junior skaters closely, but I did watch an earlier junior GP performance of hers.

While she's certainly no Michelle Kwan, it was obvious to me that she has made strides in performance. It was good to see.

I still think all these little girls skate like little girls, but it was a sign that she's aware of where she needs to improve.

ladyjane · Jan 20, 2020

hippomoomin said:
It may have something to do with the notion that figure skating is a more of a "feminine" sport (vs. masculine sport like hockey and football), and when people think of figure skating, they think of pretty ballerina.
Many people don't consider figure skating a sport, because of the artistic aspect and subjective scoring.
In addition, the majority of figure skating fans especially those attend competitions are females. It is naturally easier for ladies to appreciate ladies.

Ahem...I appreciate the men much more than the ladies (always have), and my absolute favourites are the pairs which to me is the best of everything: jumps, dance and the formidable pair elements like the twist. And I'm female.

Mathman · Jan 20, 2020

TontoK said:
I still think all these little girls skate like little girls...

Kind of a humorous way of putting it, if you think about it. They don't skate, for instance, like koalas or geckos.

ribbit · Jan 20, 2020

Mathman said:
Kind of a humorous way of putting it, if you think about it. They don't skate, for instance, like koalas or geckos.

That sounds like a classic drama/improv exercise: "Walk like a giraffe! Now walk like a gorilla!" Maybe it could be a fun way of thinking about expression and characterization through movement: "Skate like a koala! Now skate like a gecko!" :biggrin:

Greengemmonster · Jan 20, 2020

One of Alysa's strengths is she's such a natural performer and entertainer. Whilst she still needs to work on the skating skills she's lucky that she's just got that very razzle dazzle air about her naturally.

I also love the programs they pick for her. Age appropriate and personality appropriate. No headclutching, tragic overwrought programs.

TontoK · Jan 20, 2020

Mathman said:
Kind of a humorous way of putting it, if you think about it. They don't skate, for instance, like koalas or geckos.

You get what I'm saying. :laugh:

I roll my eyes when people ooh and aah over the "artistry" of the youngsters.

"Wow! She can play the Minute Waltz in 45 seconds! That's gotta be a world record!"

sworddance21 · Jan 21, 2020

TontoK said:
You get what I'm saying. [emoji23]

I roll my eyes when people ooh and aah over the "artistry" of the youngsters.

"Wow! She can play the Minute Waltz in 45 seconds! That's gotta be a world record!"

[emoji2] [emoji23]

Canadianskatingfan · Jan 21, 2020

Does anybody have a detailed schedule for the US championships? All i can find is the start times of the events and I would like to see a schedule with practice times too. Thanks!

Ross74 · Jan 21, 2020

Canadianskatingfan said:
Does anybody have a detailed schedule for the US championships? All i can find is the start times of the events and I would like to see a schedule with practice times too. Thanks!

https://www.usfigureskating.org/sites/default/files/media-files/2020 U.S. Championships Schedule.pdf

Tavi... · Jan 21, 2020

Gracie Practice:

https://twitter.com/sk8maven/status/1219792425985638402?s=21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2I4sMOC5WQ

doublequad · Jan 22, 2020

gracie's jumps look nice and sharp. she just needs to not pop

bubblecherry · Jan 22, 2020

Any way to watch a stream of the junior ladies?

Seren · Jan 22, 2020

No matter what happens in competition, Gracie deserves so much admiration for making it this far. It’s been pretty amazing to watch her improvement.

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