2019-20 Canadian Figure Skating

abbykitty · Feb 24, 2020

sad for Maddie, she should've at least gotten jr worlds. her jumps have great spring and flow, and her artistry is natural and expressive...reminds me of a young Kaetlyn Osmond. also she's been the most consistent in all her international assignments, winning Gold at Bavarian Open and Bronze at Challenge Cup. she may not have the most difficult jumps at this point, but she does the best with what she's got with exceptional quality and consistency and that should count for something.

especially with all the other Canadian ladies being wildly inconsistent, who knows if they'll even make it past the sp at Worlds. might as well send someone with longterm potential, solid fundamental skating skills to build on, and a headstrong competitive spirit. hopefully she'll be able to regroup next year with a 3Lz and more competitive jump content. I can see her and Kaiya Ruiter leading the way to a more hopeful era for Canadian ladies.

Colonel Green · Feb 25, 2020

I forgot to mention in all the ladies’ assignments hubbub, but Andrew Evans posted an Instagram Story earlier of Brooke & Ben doing a very nice throw triple loop.

blue_idealist · Feb 25, 2020

Skater Boy said:
I understand that the skating community including I believe Victor Kraatz when he was up there in the BC skating world thought or think highly of Ms.McLeod. For whatever reason and it might be a coincidence her skaters seem to fall short of their potential the latest appears to be Nam Nguyen It has been a while since he won junior worlds and yes there was a huge growth. Again, maybe it is just a coincidence. If I were superstitiious I would never send my kid there lol noting for example Ten Seemed to be such a beautiful skater; Reynolds, Sandu and Nguyen have all been fifth in the worlds and seemd to have potential and then the disaster with Mira for whatever reason. It just isn't a great track record or a sad coincidence how she has always had her hands on these skating hopes - all who seemed to fallshort of what many thought could be world medals. I am wondering if she ever sees these odd coincidences and wonders if it is her? I wonder if she reads these posts? Oh well I guess she has tough skin. Too bad it appears her skaters have tough luck.

Yeah, she wasn't able to get them to World medals, but maybe they wouldn't have gone nearly as far as they did without her as a coach.

Sabrina · Feb 25, 2020

Skater Boy said:
I understand that the skating community including I believe Victor Kraatz when he was up there in the BC skating world thought or think highly of Ms.McLeod. For whatever reason and it might be a coincidence her skaters seem to fall short of their potential the latest appears to be Nam Nguyen It has been a while since he won junior worlds and yes there was a huge growth. Again, maybe it is just a coincidence. If I were superstitiious I would never send my kid there lol noting for example Ten Seemed to be such a beautiful skater; Reynolds, Sandu and Nguyen have all been fifth in the worlds and seemd to have potential and then the disaster with Mira for whatever reason. It just isn't a great track record or a sad coincidence how she has always had her hands on these skating hopes - all who seemed to fallshort of what many thought could be world medals. I am wondering if she ever sees these odd coincidences and wonders if it is her? I wonder if she reads these posts? Oh well I guess she has tough skin. Too bad it appears her skaters have tough luck.

I have always wanted Kevin Reynolds and Sandhu to change coaches, even locations. Nobody knows the potential results, and now it's too late, at least for the retired skaters.

Skater Boy · Feb 25, 2020

blue_idealist said:
Yeah, she wasn't able to get them to World medals, but maybe they wouldn't have gone nearly as far as they did without her as a coach.

Thanks blue idealist. True. Now we know why you are idealist lol. And that is why it could be coincidences. Still you can't help but wonder and regardless when it comes to coaching a lot of the times it is the record.

Skater Boy · Feb 25, 2020

It is a fascinating/interesting decision skate canada has made. I do find it hard to believe Maddie ended up with nothing. But since they didn't send Roman well what is good or bad for the goose is good or bad for the gander. I know Emily tried her best. It is odd though Maddie didn't even get JW and really it almost seems Int'l Challenge was about seeing if Emily got the Tech minimum. Maddie should be and probably is mad. Maybe Emily will do Canada proud and make the top 12? Anything is possible. Likely no. It just seems when it comes down to it - women's skating is at an exteme low point. The argument that the Fans going to world or from Canada would expect the national champ there doesn't really hold water. SAdly, not to be mean not a lot of people know Emily. Even a lot of us skating extreme fans would not be able to pick her out of a photo line up without her name emblazoned on the photo.

Jammers · Feb 25, 2020

By the way how old is Maddie? Seems like she should have the triple lutz by now. Why do Canadian Ladies seem to lag behind the other top countries ladies in terms of jumping except in the odd years when they have a Kaetlyn Osmond or Joannie Rochette.

SkatersWaltz · Feb 25, 2020

fzztsimmons said:
Wow, controversial choice... Even Meagan Duhamel thinks Madeline should have been chosen (and I agree) ... doesn't reflect well on Skate Canada tbh

Where did Meagan Duhamel say that? I've been looking on her social media and don't see that comment. Thanks.

Colonel Green · Feb 25, 2020

Jammers said:
By the way how old is Maddie?

Madeline just turned 17 earlier this month.

She was still competing novice at 15, moved up to junior last season, and then to senior (domestically and then internationally) this year.

Since she's guaranteed a year of national team funding, maybe she can use that to spend some time with a jump specialist.

NanaPat · Feb 25, 2020

SkatersWaltz said:
Where did Meagan Duhamel say that? I've been looking on her social media and don't see that comment. Thanks.

It's a reply to a tweet from Jackie Wong. He made about 3 tweets about the Canadian ladies team selection and it was a reply to one of them. I went looking for it on twitter and found it, even though I don't have a twitter account. It was very brief, just saying Madeline had the highest score this year among the Canadian Sr women.

icestar · Feb 25, 2020

She has lutz. It was a loop year in junior so didn’t need it for the short most of the season. Put all the emphasis on triple triple and maximizing score with least risk.
She’s been doing 3a and 4t in the harness since last year.
The Russian with the most quads hardly ever wins, it’s a points game, not who did what like the old days.

Skater Boy · Feb 25, 2020

Colonel Green said:
Madeline just turned 17 earlier this month.

She was still competing novice at 15, moved up to junior last season, and then to senior (domestically and then internationally) this year.

Since she's guaranteed a year of national team funding, maybe she can use that to spend some time with a jump specialist.

In Russia this would be called early stages of geriatrics

Supernovaimplosion · Feb 25, 2020

Skater Boy said:
In Russia this would be called early stages of geriatrics

Colonel Green said:
Madeline just turned 17 earlier this month.

She was still competing novice at 15, moved up to junior last season, and then to senior (domestically and then internationally) this year.

Since she's guaranteed a year of national team funding, maybe she can use that to spend some time with a jump specialist.

I read a cbc article where Kaetlyn Osmond didn't have her lutz till she was about 17, either. Canadian women aren't as competitive as the Russians so they have more time to get new jumps.

Sabrina · Feb 25, 2020

Look at Bradie Tennel, who appeared on the big stage at 18-19. She is quite good and consistent. So age is just a number...

Sai Bon · Feb 25, 2020

> My issue with McLeod is that more often than not, her skaters have poor to middling skating skills that never seem to improve. That's the problem that Nam is having now. He didn't learn the skating skills when he was younger and he's struggling to bring them up to par now.

I thought Nam spent many years at Cricket Club as a child and young teen - his skating skills should be pretty good. Maybe he didn't work on them as much as he should have done? Can't really blame his current coach for that.

Osmond4gold · Feb 25, 2020

NanaPat said:
It's a reply to a tweet from Jackie Wong. He made about 3 tweets about the Canadian ladies team selection and it was a reply to one of them. I went looking for it on twitter and found it, even though I don't have a twitter account. It was very brief, just saying Madeline had the highest score this year among the Canadian Sr women.

Unfortunately as fans, we can't fix stupid, and what a stupid decision this was. Time for new blood at Skate Canada, imo.

Skater Boy · Feb 25, 2020

Sabrina said:
Look at Bradie Tennel, who appeared on the big stage at 18-19. She is quite good and consistent. So age is just a number...

Well yes age is a number - can be a deadly number too - it depends on the body types. Certain genetic patterns are favorable for skating. And it depends if you want or need to do quads.

Skater Boy · Feb 25, 2020

Sai Bon said:
> My issue with McLeod is that more often than not, her skaters have poor to middling skating skills that never seem to improve. That's the problem that Nam is having now. He didn't learn the skating skills when he was younger and he's struggling to bring them up to par now.

I thought Nam spent many years at Cricket Club as a child and young teen - his skating skills should be pretty good. Maybe he didn't work on them as much as he should have done? Can't really blame his current coach for that.

I am wondering if Nam could spend say 45 minutes a day on top of normal training working on speed, stroking, crossovers and edge work? By now he should have had the 4T and 4S secured and improved his spins and power/skating skills. He has improved but not the level we would expect a former world jr. champ should. I wonder if Patrick Chan could team him a thing or two?

Skater Boy · Feb 25, 2020

Osmond4gold said:
Unfortunately we can't change stupid, and what a stupid decision this was. Time for new blood at Skate Canada, imo.

I thought Michael Slipchuk was quitting or something from other posts? Canada really doesn't have a great marketable face or faces at this time. The ladies are almost if not unrecognizeable. Pairs are ho hum. Dance - well Gilles and Porier like the international judges just don't seem to ignite with the general public other than maybe us die hards. The men well no one seems to be taking charge and probably the most famous skater or thing is the bromance between Keegan and Nam. But if we are atrying to look at the glass half full. In men you see three skaters who could be top ten or higher. In dance and pairs you have two teams with outside shots at bronze and up and comers in both events. Maybe Aurora will come back ala Kaetlyn and you still have Gabby and Kaiya upcoming from juniors.

skatefancanada · Feb 25, 2020

Its probably too bad that Nam left Cricket after being fifth in the the world. I agree with the comments regarding his skating skills. They are getting better, but he would have likely benefitted from Tracy Wilson's stroking sessions as did Javi and Yuzu.
It is curious that Joanne McLeod has had so many promising skaters that never seem to quite reach their potential. Sara Tamura is another example...

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