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flanker

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Recently I noticed that Matyas Belohradsky has been training with Raf team. Does anybody know if he moved permanently or went for a summer camp?

I don't know, nor his own page (but not updated for a year :) ) nor Czech Figure Skating Union mentions it. But his coach Tomáš Verner cooperates with Raf (and does some inside info when commenting competitions :) ), so I guess it is for summer camp.
 

dorispulaski

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Carrillo 196.79 2 4 (127.71)

Donovan finishes second overall at Philadelphia International.:love:
 

Orlov

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Her family is originally from Kazakhstan.

That's not entirely true. Her father is Kazakh, but her mother is Kyrgyz. I realize that for a foreigners Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan sound pretty same, but they are different countries with different ethnic groups.
 

Bluediamonds09

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Alina Urushadze, anyone? She’s 14 or 15 and representing Georgia and is on the list for the very first jgp, in France. She’s actually pretty good. I’m looking forward to seeing how she’s gotten better since last year.
 

hanyuufan5

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That's not entirely true. Her father is Kazakh, but her mother is Kyrgyz. I realize that for a foreigners Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan sound pretty same, but they are different countries with different ethnic groups.

Oh wow, I had no idea her mother is Kyrgyz! I wonder why that's not on (English) Wikipedia.
 

Orlov

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Oh wow, I had no idea her mother is Kyrgyz! I wonder why that's not on (English) Wikipedia.

In Russian wikipedia has this information:

"Liza was born in Moscow, where her father Baytak Tursynbaev, a lawyer by training (he graduated from Karaganda University in 1992), was engaged in business. Mother, Sultanalieva Padishahan, a native of the Aksy district of the Kyrgyz SSR [Soviet Socialist Republic], graduated from the Economics Department of Moscow State University"

They met in Moscow and started a family there. Here interview father Elizabeth

...I have my own business in Moscow - a trading company. I am a lawyer by training, I graduated from KarSU in 1992 and came to Moscow on my business for a few days. And somehow I immediately liked the city, so many acquaintances and friends appeared, I got a job offer. Then I started my own business with friends.

...With the future wife Padishahan, everything happened with us like in a movie. We met at the Bolshoi Theater in Moscow. She really loves opera and ballet. Once she invited her girlfriend to the opera, she couldn’t come, and at this time and in this place I ended up on my own business and I see: the girl is pretty. She looked like she was looking for someone, and she was very confused. I offered my help, and she offered me one of the tickets, and so I first time ended up at the Bolshoi Theater.
 

CaroLiza_fan

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In Russian wikipedia has this information:

"Liza was born in Moscow, where her father Baytak Tursynbaev, a lawyer by training (he graduated from Karaganda University in 1992), was engaged in business. Mother, Sultanalieva Padishahan, a native of the Aksy district of the Kyrgyz SSR [Soviet Socialist Republic], graduated from the Economics Department of Moscow State University"

I realise that this isn't relevant to this particular discussion due to Elizabet’s age. And I realise that as a Russian you probably know more about this than any of us foreigners. But I am adding this in for the benefit of people in other countries who may not have come across this before, and who may be looking up older people from the Central Asian Republics.

Before they became full SSR’s, the Central Asian Republics were ASSR’s [Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic] within the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. Which brings me to the point I want to make:

You have to be so careful when you see references to the Kirghiz ASSR, because this name was used for what is now Kazakhstan before it was used for what is now Kyrgyzstan.​

Below is a table which will hopefully be a clear way of showing the evolution of the Central Asian Republics:

1918192019241925192619291930193219361991
Kazakhstan[Part of Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic]Kirghiz Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic
[Part of Russian SFSR]
Kazakh Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic
[Part of Russian SFSR]
Kazakh Soviet Socialist RepublicKazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan[Part of Turkestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic]Kara-Kirghiz Autonomous Oblast
[Part of Russian SFSR]
Kirghiz Autonomous Oblast
[Part of Russian SFSR]
Kirghiz Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic
[Part of Russian SFSR]
Kirghiz Soviet Socialist RepublicKyrgyzstan
Karakalpakstan
[Part of Uzbekistan]
[Part of Turkestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic]Karakalpak Autonomous Oblast
[Part of Kazakh ASSR]
Karakalpak Autonomous Oblast
[Part of Russian SFSR]
Karakalpak Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic
[Part of Russian SFSR]
Karakalpak Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic
[Part of Uzbek SSR]
Karakalpakstan
[Part of Uzbekistan]
Uzbekistan[Part of Turkestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic]Uzbek Soviet Socialist RepublicUzbekistan
Tajikistan[Part of Turkestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic]Tajik Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic
[Part of Uzbek SSR]
Tajik Soviet Socialist RepublicTajikistan
Turkmenistan[Part of Turkestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic]Turkmen Soviet Socialist RepublicTurkmenistan

Hope this helps

CaroLiza_fan
 
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CaroLiza_fan

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I have a confession to make. Before I started that previous post, I had never heard tell of Karakalpakstan. I only came across it when I was looking up Turkestan to find out when it was broken up.

But, curiosity got the better of me, and I just did a search for skaters from Uzbekistan to see if any of them were actually from Karakalpakstan. And whilst I didn’t find any, I did find something interesting:

Every single figure skater from Uzbekistan that has a full ISU Bio is from Tashkent. :jaw:

And it is not as if we were only talking about a handful of skaters – there were 6 full pages of results, and the majority of them were full Bios!

Which begs the question – are there ice skating facilities elsewhere in the country at all?

Also, the penultimate Bio result in the search results before the index pages at the end pointed to the following basic ISU Bio for a skater who was Hong Kong Senior Men's Champion back in 2004:

http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00008000.htm

Is this right? :shocked:

The Date Of Birth certainly matches...

CaroLiza_fan
 

Edwin

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These are the rinks that Uzbekistan Ice Hockey Federation operates: http://www.uihf.uz/about/areas, the English language page stays empty: http://www.uihf.uz/en/about/targets
4 rinks, all in Tashkent, and some of them offer figure skating classes.

Plans they have: https://kun.uz/en/news/2019/06/14/uzbekistan-may-host-2022-world-junior-figure-skating-championships to be held at the new $200 million Humo Arena.
Thanks to Misha Ge's influence the event has been awarded?: http://uz24.news/index.php/tashkent-to-host-world-junior-figure-skating-championships-in-2022/
More on UZB plans to put itself on the map: https://eurasianet.org/uzbekistan-ice-arena-opening-carries-whiff-of-russian-soft-power

Chances for lesser surplus skaters from Russia also, to give UZB its home team on short notice.

All these plans are geo-politically motivated to gain influence in that region of the world which is plagued ethnic tension, tribal conflicts, fights over natural resources etc.
 

ruga

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Also, the penultimate Bio result in the search results before the index pages at the end pointed to the following basic ISU Bio for a skater who was Hong Kong Senior Men's Champion back in 2004:

http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00008000.htm

Is this right? :shocked:

The Date Of Birth certainly matches...

CaroLiza_fan
Could be possible as he has Chinese roots and had lived in China for quite a long time. It's described under 'Personal Life' section in his Wikipedia page. It would be quite interesting to know why he is representing Uzbekistan now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misha_Ge
 

CaroLiza_fan

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These are the rinks that Uzbekistan Ice Hockey Federation operates: http://www.uihf.uz/about/areas, the English language page stays empty: http://www.uihf.uz/en/about/targets
4 rinks, all in Tashkent, and some of them offer figure skating classes.

Thank you. So, it looks like ice sports are just centred on the capital.

That’s a real shame. Uzbekistan is quite a big country, so that means that there are lots of potentially great skaters in the country that aren’t getting the opportunity to discover a love for the sport because they do not have facilities nearby. :disapp:

Could be possible as he has Chinese roots and had lived in China for quite a long time. It's described under 'Personal Life' section in his Wikipedia page. It would be quite interesting to know why he is representing Uzbekistan now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misha_Ge

I knew for a long time that he had roots in a lot of Asian countries, but this was the first that I had heard Hong Kong being mentioned.

The reason that I was wondering if this was correct is the season that he is down as being Hong Kong Senior Men's Champion. Because, he would only have been 12 during the 2003–04 Season. Which seems very young to be Senior Champion.

An interesting thing that struck me was the way his name was written. I had always assumed that he was actually a Mikhail, but just used the short form all the time. But, seeing each syllable written as a separate word has made me realise that it may actually be a Chinese name that just looks and sounds like a Russian short form name.

Ge Mi-Sha has a totally different ring to it, doesn’t it?

CaroLiza_fan
 

Edwin

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Thank you. So, it looks like ice sports are just centred on the capital.

That’s a real shame. Uzbekistan is quite a big country, so that means that there are lots of potentially great skaters in the country that aren’t getting the opportunity to discover a love for the sport because they do not have facilities nearby. :disapp:

I don't know. Figure skating belonged to the 'white' Russian communist invaders/occupiers. Uzbekistan itself is a traditional muslim/tatar/turkmen kind of society, ice hockey will please the traditional male values of strength, valour in fighting etc.

So if the ice hockey propagates in the country to give boys a chance, figure skating might follow for the girls?
 

ruga

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Thank you. So, it looks like ice sports are just centred on the capital.

That’s a real shame. Uzbekistan is quite a big country, so that means that there are lots of potentially great skaters in the country that aren’t getting the opportunity to discover a love for the sport because they do not have facilities nearby. :disapp:



I knew for a long time that he had roots in a lot of Asian countries, but this was the first that I had heard Hong Kong being mentioned.

The reason that I was wondering if this was correct is the season that he is down as being Hong Kong Senior Men's Champion. Because, he would only have been 12 during the 2003–04 Season. Which seems very young to be Senior Champion.

An interesting thing that struck me was the way his name was written. I had always assumed that he was actually a Mikhail, but just used the short form all the time. But, seeing each syllable written as a separate word has made me realise that it may actually be a Chinese name that just looks and sounds like a Russian short form name.

Ge Mi-Sha has a totally different ring to it, doesn’t it?

CaroLiza_fan

Maybe Hong Kong has no age limits for entering Senior Nationals? After all, their field is not very big so no reason not to let a very good twelve year old to compete. Similar to how Sotnikova won Russian Nats at a very young age (11 or 12, can't recall).

I think his name is derived from Mikhail (he was born in Russia after all), but maybe Chinese transliteration rules is the reason why it's spelled like that.
 

Nirti

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The results presented in ISU bios don't always take into account the senior/junior/novice level differences, especially some years ago. All the senior skaters are ranked first, then the junior skaters, then the novice skaters. So if there's no senior nor junior skaters, the #1 novice skater is the #1 skater for that country... It only depends on how the federation transmitted the results to ISU.

By the way, I realize that Misha Ge had quite no junior career and so never took part to the World Junior Championships!
 

GoneWithTheWind

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The ISU JGP channel posted an interview with Harshita Rawtani from India who skated in both the ladies' singles and ice dance in Lake Placid. It's such a lovely interview, her love of skating comes through as she tells Ted her motto is that she 'skates to express not to impress' and reveals that she admires Anastasia Tarakanova. I'm so glad that she and her partner had such a great experience at their first JGP!
 

Dreamer57

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Natálie and Filip are on the podium! [emoji1086][emoji7]

I don't know if anyone managed to see the medal ceremony, but I saw that after the medals had been presented, Filip had a phone out and Gleb helped with taking a selfie of all the medalists on the podium :luv17: I thought this was a really sweet memory!
 
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