Daniil Gleyhengauz, obviously The guy makes a lot of great programs, but a lot of people constantly criticize him and his programs for reasons I do not understand.
Because his choreography tends to be overly cluttered. Unfortunately, in the drive to milk every point, he throws everything into the pot and then heats it up. I'd love to see what he could choreograph if he was allowed to let the moves breathe, have some space and time. Right now, I don't remember his choreography, I just remember jump-spin-too many steps in the step sequence-spin-halfway point-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-spin-jump.
his choreos look always so...nervous there's no room for "breath" every movement is in a split second and suddenly there's another one, he doesn't allow you to enjoy the lines, the moves themselves. i like just two of his works: Scheerbakova's Rondo Capriccioso and Valieva's fs
Please explain to me with a detailed example. I am not an expert like you - I just see an amazing program that takes my breath away and in which everything is in its place.
That's what I talking about - I see amazing program, masterpieces. And people do not see it. Therefore, I truly think that Gleykhengauz underrated choreographer
Well, I did agree with you here. But then this is just a few seconds out of a ~2:50 program.I'm enjoying "the moves themselves" here, at first few second after 2A when Alyona slides in amazing deep curves looking straight into your eyes, or at this second after flip. Or do you want it - "the moves themselves" - to go on for hours? Why?
Here, the choreography creates an amazingly convincing image of a powerful being with a huge hidden power - Angel. Sudden power energy interspersed with smooth line. It's awesome, everything is in place.
My hypothesis is the following - a huge number of old fans brought up in the programs of previous years. Where "need pretends to be virtue" - the skaters of that time simply couldn’t do that and the programs were primitive. I liked how Yagudin when he commented on one of the competitions honestly admitted "in my time the programs were primitive and simple - we just running by line from jump to jump." So I think that the "refined tastes" and the views of many are brought up on the weak possibilities of the skaters of that era.
topic: I once bought 100% pure, unsweetened carrot juice, because someone told me it was good, but that other kinds would probably be *too sweet* for me... then I took one sip and I thought I'd burned my mouth off. It was about as fun as licking a leaking battery.I As we say - "In his entire life, he ate nothing sweeter than carrots"
Please explain to me with a detailed example. I am not an expert like you - I just see an amazing program that takes my breath away and in which everything is in its place.
That's what I talking about - I see amazing program, masterpieces. And people do not see it. Therefore, I truly think that Gleykhengauz underrated choreographer
I dunno, maybe I'm just a stupid redneck that does not have a refined taste like you guys (As we say - "In his entire life, he ate nothing sweeter than carrots").
My hypothesis is the following - a huge number of old fans brought up in the programs of previous years. Where "need pretends to be virtue" - the skaters of that time simply couldn’t do that and the programs were primitive. I liked how Yagudin when he commented on one of the competitions honestly admitted "in my time the programs were primitive and simple - we just running by line from jump to jump." So I think that the "refined tastes" and the views of many are brought up on the weak possibilities of the skaters of that era.
Jeremy Abbott
Robin Cousins
Elladj Balde
Adam Rippon
Adam Solya
John Kerr
Yuka Sato
Just to name a few....
Very informative post :thumbsup:, but i will comment only on things i disagree with. Which i think are product of the different nature of understanding the figure skating program itself. According to your post, my impression is that you understand composition of the program as a thing reflective to the music (and only to the music) skaters are skating to. I don't think that's the case (or should be). Every program is based on some required elements prescribed by ISU. Those required elements are including jumps, spins, steps/choreo movements. Its not the requirement that every movement should be replica of the music. That goes only after and its not the most important thing to look at while analyzing composition of the skaters program. What are you talking about (mostly) is one of the ISU criteria for the composition, called phrase and form/maching the musical structure. I agree that Kostornaya's program in some parts is lacking in that, but then again i didn't see many of other programs last season which are expressing musical phrasing much better (or in much better capacity) than what we have here. That is because programs are not just motivated by the structure of the music itself, but in first place by requred elements, and also by criterias of the other program components. We can say that 'music requirement' is involved in COmposition not more than 50%, but almost totally in INterpration, while its not part or has only little involvement in other components. So, if some movements, turns and steps has no relation to the music phrase, they are there to fullfill other programs requirement. Leg kick and other movements are maybe pointless from the music point of you, but they are not pointless from the point of view of other requirements. They are even part of the requirements present in COmposition like it is multidimensional use of space with your body movements (not to mention they are present in different form in SS and TR requirements too).
The programs they created for Kevin Aymoz last season were superb! Definitely underrated.John Zimmerman, Silvia Fontana
Agree!The programs they created for Kevin Aymoz last season were superb! Definitely underrated.