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2019-20 Japanese Men's Figure Skating
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Off the top of my head, Sotas legs do not come together in the air as well as they could. He keeps his knees bent a little. That has been the case since he was a junior.
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I agree Nationals will be exciting!
About Sota's tech, I'm also not a specialist, but I would agree he rotates fast. Sometimes his jumps get more rotation speed than height, which then gives the perception of being a bit tight on the landing (but looking in slow-mo, normally it's more perception rather than actual UR). Maybe that's what these guys were referring to? This is more the case for edge jumps like the 3A or 4S, though, so maybe he's just more of a toe jumper than an edge jumper.
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I meant the 3rd spot for the Worlds and 4CC teams.
Thanks on the feedback on Sota's tech, Specs and Kirara!
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Daisuke Takahashi? Hasnt he switched to Ice Dance?
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Japan Nationals will be his final singles competition.
Like last year, if someone takes his spot, it will be because he lets it happen.I meant the 3rd spot for the Worlds and 4CC teams.
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whoa, lol, do you have a crystal ball or anything? We have yet to see him compete and you're already seeing him on the podium and calling the spots 'his'... wow. Aren't you a tad dismissive of all other men on team Japan by chance?
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Uhhhh... You obviously missed the news? Daisuke Takahashi's switching to ice dance in January 2020. Therefore, whatever his placement at Nats, he won't be taking any spots as a single skater. So Surimi is absolutely right to count him out.
Uhhhh...you do realize that people change their minds? And if Daisuke finishes in the top 3, he will be under consideration regardless? And that your tone was rather insulting?
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It's not insulting to literally state what's been on the news. If you want to believe otherwise, then that's your problem.
Actually, in terms of GP points:
Yuzuru > Keiji > Shoma > Kazuki > Sota > Koshiro
Obviously we know that Shoma can do a lot better, and I hope he does, but it's not as guaranteed as it was in previous seasons, which then makes everything even more unpredictable
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I think Shoma's move to Lambiel, already having good results, will keep him on the upward trajectory for Nationals. -Here's hoping. --I also hope that the performances for ALL the Worlds and 4CC hopefuls at Nationals will be good. Last year was really, really messy.
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Uhm, I don't think he will be under consideration because, as far as I know, he doesn't have the scores to compete at Worlds... maybe I'm wrong but I knew he needed to compete to a couple of challengers to be eligible for Worlds
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Yeah, that too. He would need to get TES minimum, which he could have done very easily pre-Nats if he wanted to be considered for a singles skater international spot. But he didn't, he chose to focus on ice dance with his partner Kana Muramoto instead. I mean, fair point if some fans still want to keep the dream alive
but all facts point out to Daisuke not taking any international singles spot regardless of his placement at Nats.
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Says a user who has just insulted the efforts and achievements of all men on Team Japan who aren't Yuzuru, Shoma and Daisuke. Rich.
Actually, in terms of GP points:
Yuzuru > Keiji > Shoma > Kazuki > Sota > Koshiro
Obviously we know that Shoma can do a lot better, and I hope he does, but it's not as guaranteed as it was in previous seasons, which then makes everything even more unpredictable
I think for Shoma, the season so far has been an exception from the norm. Keiji does have a tendency to skate extremely well at Nats, but for me Shoma is still the clear #2 favorite.. we'll see. What a championship this is going to be! I wish I could watch.
Shh, don't jinx it
I hope so too, especially for the ones who were absent or injured last season. And fingers crossed for Hiroaki who would undoubtedly welcome a satisfying result in his last season.
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I think he could finish top 3. He is consistent. Has great basics and nice programs. He might be nervous at Senior Nationals but if he skates well... he is definitely a threat.
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So... I'm going to write something that might be a bit controversial, and I want to preface this saying that this is by no means an attack on the skater.
IMO some of Yuma's scores have been a bit inflated, and especially his Junior Nats score was very inflated. I am not questioning his placement - he deserved to win - but I was mortified when I found out he had received 81 PCS in the free. Yes, he's consistent and has great SS, but in terms of PE, IN and TR he's still very, very juniorish (which is absolutely fine, he's still a junior). It's not fair when you have senior skaters such as Kazuki Tomono and Sota Yamamoto, who are great performers, getting less than that on a regular basis, both nationally and internationally. Furthermore, by inflating Yuma's PCS like that, they're literally removing the incentive for him to improve.
They also didn't call his unclear lutz edge which is a mistake IMO - he's at an age when he needs to be called at every single competition so he can fix it. You don't want to ignore this because if things change and he falls out of political favour, it will become a huge handicap for him.
Yes, I know, I know, JSF are doing this because they're desperate for a consistent man. I just don't agree with overscoring, and overscoring young skaters is especially bad because it leads to complacency/stagnation.
So what I really want to see at senior Nats are not only good performances, but also fair judging
IMO some of Yuma's scores have been a bit inflated, and especially his Junior Nats score was very inflated. I am not questioning his placement - he deserved to win - but I was mortified when I found out he had received 81 PCS in the free. Yes, he's consistent and has great SS, but in terms of PE, IN and TR he's still very, very juniorish (which is absolutely fine, he's still a junior). It's not fair when you have senior skaters such as Kazuki Tomono and Sota Yamamoto, who are great performers, getting less than that on a regular basis, both nationally and internationally. Furthermore, by inflating Yuma's PCS like that, they're literally removing the incentive for him to improve.
They also didn't call his unclear lutz edge which is a mistake IMO - he's at an age when he needs to be called at every single competition so he can fix it. You don't want to ignore this because if things change and he falls out of political favour, it will become a huge handicap for him.
Yes, I know, I know, JSF are doing this because they're desperate for a consistent man. I just don't agree with overscoring, and overscoring young skaters is especially bad because it leads to complacency/stagnation.
So what I really want to see at senior Nats are not only good performances, but also fair judging
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