Effects of ISU's media deal - Figure Skating on CBC but not Eurosport

Edwin · Oct 15, 2019

MGstyle said:
Enormous sigh of relief.... but I would hope no geoblocking involved...???

It's all about the money, so geoblocks are necessary in their belief. Still, no big money deals on continental TV rights for ISU it seems. i.e. where I live, The Netherlands, we have lots of speed and short track skating on main TV channels live, so the geoblock might stay in place for figure skating. Have to wait and see. Best switch the bell on so I'll get notifications when a stream will start.

Geoblocks are sort of useless as they can be circumvented, but best not tell ISU ;-)

Winnie_20 · Oct 15, 2019

Wooooooow..... seriously?!?!?!

Edit; I do naively assume the ISU are smart enough not to geoblock figure skating when a country has bought partial licensing for other skating events. From the sound of it, I think we are okay, as the ISU say they will publish a how to watch for every event, so it seems they do look at every event separately.

Bcash · Oct 15, 2019

Hopefully the camera work will be good now that some of the legacy broadcasters are no longer involved? Or were they not responsible at all for camera operation in the first place?

pesto · Oct 15, 2019

I'd have preferred a TV broadcast, but this is very good news, compared to the fear of not having any reliable source.

It's dashed late in the day to let us know, however.

Edwin · Oct 15, 2019

pesto said:
I'd have preferred a TV broadcast, but this is very good news, compared to the fear of not having any reliable source.

Bcash said:
Hopefully the camera work will be good now that some of the legacy broadcasters are no longer involved? Or were they not responsible at all for camera operation in the first place?

If they bring in Ted Barton and crew, we should be OK over camera work and commentary. Perhaps ISU and the local networks operate side by side since there is need of local and international commentary, interviews etc?

Wait and see, there is nothing more we can do about it now the deals have been struck or failed.

ladyjane · Oct 15, 2019

Well, at least there is this. We weren't Geo-blocked in earlier years when Eurovision did all this, so I hope this will be okay now.

karne · Oct 15, 2019

Wow! Finally!

Youtube is also much more readily accessible and easier to chromecast at higher quality!

Winnie_20 · Oct 15, 2019

Youtube is brilliant for watching on TV, for me there is no difference watching TV or youtube stream on TV via, for instance, appleTV or PS4 or iPhone.

I just wonder how the ISU think this is better, money-wise, than Eurosport? What kind of advertising can we expect on youtube? Better not be too much!!

Edwin · Oct 15, 2019

Youtube can certainly be better, up to 4K UHD and HDR, ideal for our big screen OLED TV.

All TV is digital nowadays, be it DVB over air, DVB over cable or satellite.

About commercial we have to wait, ISU has little control over what advertisements will be shown, those depend on your device settings.

I have a feeling most of the big deals they were expecting fell through, and ISU couldn't really expand their market outside of traditional territories. So after all Ted Barton's announcements during JGP events were true, ISU had something surprising for us in store ;-)

CaroLiza_fan · Oct 15, 2019

And there I was preparing myself for a season of watching only Senior B's.

Although I would have preferred TV coverage, at least the ISU are giving us online coverage. And at least it will be on a proven and user friendly streaming site.

Personally, I'm not bothered whether there is commentary or not. I do like having somebody who can pick out things that I mightn't notice, but I prefer if we see the routine itself without commentary and any analysis is done during the highlights. In other words, like Ted does.

What I will say is that I hope Red Brick are producing the coverage, because they have done a great job with the Junior GP's over the past few years, as well as with the Major Championships that they have worked on.

CaroLiza_fan

MGstyle · Oct 15, 2019

Edwin said:
If they bring in Ted Barton and crew, we should be OK over camera work and commentary. Perhaps ISU and the local networks operate side by side since there is need of local and international commentary, interviews etc?

Wait and see, there is nothing more we can do about it now the deals have been struck or failed.

OMG don't tempt me to get overly hopeful :hap85:
about geoblock I just remembered Viasat, so I am a little concerned for the nordic folks. But the rest of Europe was left uncovered after Eurosport ditched them, so theoretically they should be safe, or so I hope...??

Jammers · Oct 15, 2019

So besides the GP series are all the big events going to be on the ISU Youtube channel such as 4CC, Europeans and Worlds?

Harriet · Oct 15, 2019

Jammers said:
So besides the GP series are all the big events going to be on the ISU Youtube channel such as 4CC, Europeans and Worlds?

Yes, they're all covered by the term 'ISU Championships'.

Starry Up · Oct 15, 2019

What a relief! I think this is great news and will save those of us who are used to pay for Eurosport £40 per year. It's still a shame they've left it so last minute to announce that there's no time for them to really promote it - I'm sure stone casual fans who used to tune in on tv will not seek our the YouTube channel unless it's promoted to them.

My only actual worry is that this will lead to copyright take downs of programmes to high profile music.

flanker · Oct 15, 2019

Bcash said:
Hopefully the camera work will be good now that some of the legacy broadcasters are no longer involved? Or were they not responsible at all for camera operation in the first place?

If you visit video archives on their skating channel:
https://www.eurovisionsports.tv/isu/figure-skating/
you can see that even the events where usual broadcasters weren't involved have some quality (apart from the last junior worlds

).

Winnie_20 · Oct 15, 2019

Starry Up said:
My only actual worry is that this will lead to copyright take downs of programmes to high profile music.

Oh. Oh no, you’re right, that’s been happening to so many of the JGP videos, and so fast, too. :-( Where is our guarantee that won’t happen with these streams and videos, too?

s1alker · Oct 15, 2019

Harriet said:
This just went up on the ISU website - thanks to morquet at FSU for catching it!

The ISU is pleased to announce that all ISU Events, from the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating, ISU World Cup Speed Skating, ISU World Cup Short Track Series and ISU Championships will be live streamed on the Skating ISU YouTube Channel as of season 2019/20.

Per the announcement, the stream will be geoblocked in regions where broadcast deals have been arranged but otherwise generally available - details of any restrictions to be published before each event on the ISU site.

Nice save, ISU - just.

ETA: LOL - how many of us were waiting to pounce on any hint of news!!!

Oh that's wonderful! I figured they were going to do something like this. Now I won't need to buy expensive NBC Gold package since I can just use a VPN if it's geoblocked.

Do you think there will be commentary?

LaArdilla · Oct 15, 2019

Wow, what a relief. If this is what it took for them to save face - chapeaux bas. No idea how they expect to earn more on YouTube than on Eurosport, but still, it's great news.

pearly · Oct 15, 2019

pesto said:
I'd have preferred a TV broadcast, but this is very good news, compared to the fear of not having any reliable source.

It's dashed late in the day to let us know, however.

CaroLiza_fan said:
And there I was preparing myself for a season of watching only Senior B's.

Although I would have preferred TV coverage, at least the ISU are giving us online coverage. And at least it will be on a proven and user friendly streaming site.

Personally, I'm not bothered whether there is commentary or not. I do like having somebody who can pick out things that I mightn't notice, but I prefer if we see the routine itself without commentary and any analysis is done during the highlights. In other words, like Ted does.

What I will say is that I hope Red Brick are producing the coverage, because they have done a great job with the Junior GP's over the past few years, as well as with the Major Championships that they have worked on.

CaroLiza_fan

A cheap gadget can cast anything from your computer screen to your TV so this is basically a TV broadcast. But with this you get the full event, not just the last two groups and you don't have to worry about coverage starting late because the previous event has been extended for whatever reason. This is great.

If Ted Barton does end up doing the commentary, I just hope it will be different than the tone he set for JGP.

tafattsbarn · Oct 15, 2019

This is a relief. I'm not sure if viasat got the rights for fs in the nordic countries but i'd much rather get a vpn and stream through youtube even if that's the case.

Effects of ISU's media deal - Figure Skating on CBC but not Eurosport

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