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el henry

Go have some cake. And come back with jollity.
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Thank you all. I guess you are right in that I just love it when coaches get all emotional, even if they do it all the time because it's the way they always react to one of their students really doing well. That's probably just me, someone who gets to sniff and gets all teary when things like that happen.

I just read Adam's book (beautiful on the outside) and it's pretty clear he has enormous admiration for Raf if only because RAF told him he wouldn't accept his mothers money anymore, then helped him get his act together and only then expected to get fees again. There's a lot in between, but the gist of it is that Raf helped him get independant. Of course I admire that too, just as I admired Tarasova in her day who would also get very emotional. And I certainly didn't intend to be negative about either Tracy Wilson or Kori Ade, of whom I have heard nothing but praise and how supportive they are to their students. And stay that when a student becomes an ex-student because a particular student needs a different angle or approach after a while.

So, now I'm going to walk 10 miles barefoot in the snow (once the snow arrives). ;)

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love emotional too. Silvia and Kevin were just adorable, and Kevin seems to love that interaction and has found the best coaches for him. And of course we often have the Brian cam, with Brian jumping along with his skaters:biggrin:

I don't know if I was too obscure with the "ten miles in the snow" speech. When grumpy folks of a certain age (like me:laugh:) tell a younger person, well when I was your age, sonny, we didn't have it easy like you with this and that, it's the "walking ten miles in the snow" speech.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhenIWasYourAge

Other cultures must have the equivalent ;)
 

4everchan

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to me a good coach is one that can adapt to the needs of each skater... some skaters need a very quiet and calm coach... some others need the energy.... there is no recipe that works with every skater... and a great coach will therefore find ways to make his/her skaters better, by catering to their needs.
 

ruga

Final Flight
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Oct 20, 2017
For me a good coach is someone who has both respectful interractions with their students and good results. I personally like almost all Japanese coaches, especially Mie Hamada. It seems that she is very calm and positive with her skaters and her attitude is kind of reflected in her skaters' skating - they seem to be quite mentally strong and do not get distracted by mistakes easily.

Though whenever discussing coaches, it's worth to remember that behavior in, say, K&C may be way different than during training process.
 

LadyB

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Jan 7, 2016
I also think the emotions a coach feels deeply inside will be felt by their skaters when they have a close relationship and know each other well. I'm a very emotional and passionate personality myself, but I do understand that it is sometimes important to keep your control. I also had the pleasure to watch Brian and Javi interact post-competition in a hotel and the close bond was absolutely tangible.

The immediate image, however, that comes up in mind when I think of coach/skater relationships is TAT! TAT and Yags in 2002, TAT and Yags at her 70th birthday gala...and TAT crying into her blue scarf when Kovtun against all odds became Russian champion last December. Bless :luv17:
 

DSQ

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Eteri Tutberidze 💙

I saw a video of her after her daughter had had a bad skate, when her daughter was still in Russia and in singles. It was quite sweet. I think Eteri feels a lot more that we’d give her credit for going by what we see at competitions. It’s clear she has high expectations of her pupils but that’s not always a bad thing.

Tbh though when it comes to the reverse, supportive coaches but not great results, I think it’s often a two way street. A great partnership comes from a good coach and a good student.
 

anonymoose_au

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I always enjoy seeing Mishin and his students in the Kiss and Cry. Mishin always seems so mellow! Even that time Artur Dmitriev Jnr had a meltdown and looked like he was going to punch him in the face! :eek:

Also sometimes Mishin will play with the plush toys thrown to his skaters and it's hilarious. :laugh:
 

energywithin22

Rinkside
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Feb 6, 2019
I always enjoy seeing Mishin and his students in the Kiss and Cry. Mishin always seems so mellow! Even that time Artur Dmitriev Jnr had a meltdown and looked like he was going to punch him in the face! :eek:

Also sometimes Mishin will play with the plush toys thrown to his skaters and it's hilarious. :laugh:

I agreeeee, I love seeing him interact with his skaters. He's adorable :)
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

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Jan 25, 2013
My fave 5 coaches ever are probably Tarasova Tarasova, Brian Orser, Alexei Mishin, Bin Yao and Machiko Yamada! :love:

(Happy to use my 12000th post to give them their props!)

Regarding the OP, I'm always impressed with how caring Mihoko Higuchi is to Shoma, and how genuinely sweet their relationship was.
 

Skater Boy

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Feb 24, 2012
Tracey Wainman seemed to be a good nurturing coach. That lady who coached Patrick Chan (jumps especially) I thought was good but I can't remember her name. I like the way Ravi Walia works with his students too. Very understated.
 

ladyjane

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Jun 26, 2012
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I also think the emotions a coach feels deeply inside will be felt by their skaters when they have a close relationship and know each other well. I'm a very emotional and passionate personality myself, but I do understand that it is sometimes important to keep your control. I also had the pleasure to watch Brian and Javi interact post-competition in a hotel and the close bond was absolutely tangible.

The immediate image, however, that comes up in mind when I think of coach/skater relationships is TAT! TAT and Yags in 2002, TAT and Yags at her 70th birthday gala...and TAT crying into her blue scarf when Kovtun against all odds became Russian champion last December. Bless :luv17:

I remember Tat and Yags also! I also recall Yags once saying in an interview that he wanted to be with her because she seemed so motherly towards Ilia Kulik, and that's the kind of relationship he wished for.
 

NanaPat

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Tracey Wainman seemed to be a good nurturing coach. That lady who coached Patrick Chan (jumps especially) I thought was good but I can't remember her name. I like the way Ravi Walia works with his students too. Very understated.

Do you mean Christie Krall? I'm surprised more people don't suggest her for skaters who "need help with their jumps" after the progress Patrick made with her. She's a DartFish specialist at Broadmore in Colorado Springs.

Or do you mean Kathy Johnson, who was more of a dance coach and not a technical coach?
 
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