Are there? That seems almost just a bit dodgy.
Grand Prix Final Analysis
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Are there? That seems almost just a bit dodgy.
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This was a popular game back in the days of 6.0 scoring. At the 2002 World Championship, for instance, Dick Button explained on U.S. TV before the event started that the judging panel had 6 Slutskaya judges and 3 Kwan judges. This was at the beginning of the anonymous judging period, so we don't know for sure who voted for whom, but Slutskaya won with 6 first place ordinals to 3.
In the CoP era, even with anonymous judging, statistics showed that a skater got higher scores when there was a judge from that skater's nation on the panel than when there was not. Now we can do these studies for individual judges. I agree with you that there are surely people out there who are busily massaging all the statistical data that they can get their hands on. It's great fun. :yes:
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I'm not too familiar with most of the male skaters in NHK, will someone please enlighten as to Boyang's chances at GPF after the short program? How likely are Brown and Ignatov to make a comeback in the free?
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I feel that Aymoz is looking good to get the silver.
Based on the analysis in post 115 and how Brown and Ignatov were scored respectively, I think it is more likely than not that Ignatov will not receive high enough PCS to attain the third position, let alone the second.
Brown, however, is more likely to rally and be in either 3rd or 4th, given how favourable the judges are to him, and that Voronov had troubles skating his Free so far this season.
So, i’d say, watch the artistic Mr. Brown.
Wow Jason and Ignatov are doing exactly what Boyang needs for GPF. Aymoz needs 2nd/3rd and he looks well positioned to attain that (and therefore GPF). So assuming Aymoz is in, Jason needs 4th to edge out Boyang to claim the final spot. Ignatov needs 3rd and for Jason not to get 4th to claim the final spot.
Yet again the men prove to be unpredictable ...
Will be funny if Boyang makes it in after all this drama (it's no longer unlikely that it'll happen!)
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Thank you both! I don't like rooting against anyone but I just really want Boyang to make it. 
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Thank you both! I don't like rooting against anyone but I just really want Boyang to make it.
It’s normal to root
Makar the Gorgeous had almost exactly the same PCS in Moscow as in Japan, it’s his GoE that became lower (and yes, he received a lot of penalties on that 3A). By his free though, his PCS in Moscow showed some improvement. He skated his free nearly cleanly.
In Japan, Brown will skate early on, and Ignatov — prior to the top three after the Short. I think you will know if Boyang made it right after Ignatov skates.
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It’s normal to root
Makar the Gorgeous had almost exactly the same PCS in Moscow as in Japan, it’s his GoE that became lower (and yes, he received a lot of penalties on that 3A). By his free though, his PCS in Moscow showed some improvement. He skated his free nearly cleanly.
In Japan, Brown will skate early on, and Ignatov — prior to the top three after the Short. I think you will know if Boyang made it right after Ignatov skates.
Yes, but Makar didn't deserve those PCS for the free in Russia. ( He is so so handsome.. lucky kid talented and gorgeous) but his SP is definitely better artistically than his free which is a zero artistically for me。Technically he is very good... but outside of Russia ...I don't see him getting good PCS in the free. Brown, on the other hand, if clean will get love from the judges.
Not going to stay up for the Men, but the rest of the spots have been decided!
No surprises in ladies, with the expected 6 making it through to the final!
1. Sasha
2. Alyona
3. Anna
4. Rika
5. Alina
6. Bradie
No surprises either in ice dance except I had thought Guignard/Fabbri would've been able to pose more of a challenge to Stepanova/Bukin.
1. Papadakis/Cizeron
2. Sinitsina/Katsalapov
3. Gilles/Poirier
4. Hubbell/Donohue
5. Stepanova/Bukin
6. Chock/Bates
With pairs, Moore-Towers/Marinaro successfully fought their way to the silver, edging out Tarasova/Morozov. For perspective, Tarasova/Morozov have a higher total score than qualifiers #3-6 (some nearly 10-20 pts more) but were still knocked out due to a weak placement in Skate Canada.
1. Sui/Han
2. Boikova/Kozlovskii
3. Peng/Jin
4. Mishina/Galliamov
5. Moore-Towers/Marinaro
6. Pavliuchenko/Khodykin
No surprises in ladies, with the expected 6 making it through to the final!
1. Sasha
2. Alyona
3. Anna
4. Rika
5. Alina
6. Bradie
No surprises either in ice dance except I had thought Guignard/Fabbri would've been able to pose more of a challenge to Stepanova/Bukin.
1. Papadakis/Cizeron
2. Sinitsina/Katsalapov
3. Gilles/Poirier
4. Hubbell/Donohue
5. Stepanova/Bukin
6. Chock/Bates
With pairs, Moore-Towers/Marinaro successfully fought their way to the silver, edging out Tarasova/Morozov. For perspective, Tarasova/Morozov have a higher total score than qualifiers #3-6 (some nearly 10-20 pts more) but were still knocked out due to a weak placement in Skate Canada.
1. Sui/Han
2. Boikova/Kozlovskii
3. Peng/Jin
4. Mishina/Galliamov
5. Moore-Towers/Marinaro
6. Pavliuchenko/Khodykin
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BOYANG'S GOING TO GPF!!!!!! 
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Boyang made it!! So the last 2 spot is Aymoz and Boyang!
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people have their doubt, but men's skating is too unpredictable in the end!! Jin Boyang have taken the last spot and qualifying to GPF
And we now have our men’s final...literally down to the wire as we waited for Voronov’s scores. Congratulations to:
Hanyu
Chen
Samarin
Aymoz
Aliev
And Boyang Jin!
I think Boyang owes some Christmas cards to Sergei and Roman this year! We knew Jason could be blocked but did anyone peg Roman as the man to do it? Big congratulations to everyone who made the final!
Hanyu
Chen
Samarin
Aymoz
Aliev
And Boyang Jin!
I think Boyang owes some Christmas cards to Sergei and Roman this year! We knew Jason could be blocked but did anyone peg Roman as the man to do it? Big congratulations to everyone who made the final!
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BOYANG'S GOING TO GPF!!!!!!
Hey, look your rooting for him paid off
And grats to Jin Boyang!
Nguyen, the first substitute, also grats!!!
Also to Alina, as I was a bit worried for her yesterday.
Love the GPF comp, going be one hell of a competition!
) so I’m super happy to see Boyang !!!!!
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So happy for Boyang!!! Oh god, I did not expect this turn of events, but I’ll take it! Good job, Boyangman!
B o y a n g !!!
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I bet Boyang was watching this competition at home
